Nixon 'Telephones' the MOON

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Re: Nixon 'Telephones' the MOON

Postby Masato » Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:13 pm

Jehannum wrote:I always remember the argument about why there were no visible stars when they had the best view of them ever seen by mankind (upto that point) but even that was debunked (explained lol) from what I remember.


Actually, the question of what stars are visible or not visible from space or even from the ISS is still IMO a very interesting question...

Check this vid out from about 18:20 mark... it compiles a whole bunch of different conflicting testimonies of astronauts regarding this question. Some say you can see stars, some say you can't, some say it black, some say its full of light, some say you can only see them in certain positions relative to sun, others say you see them all the time, etc etc etc

Hell, the Apollo astronauts themselves couldn't even 'recall' whether or not they saw stars even though they supposedly spent 3 days in the craft floating out to the moon and another 3 days back, when asked at the press conference they look to each other in befuddlement not being able to answer.



^ some of the answers are about what stars are seen from ISS, other clips talking about the moon... the vid-maker kind of throws them all together but keep watching from that 18:20 mark and the inconsistencies of both questions become disturbingly clear

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Postby Masato » Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:48 pm

Another interesting bit from that video ^^ is @ 16:40 and 17:43, where he confirms that all the hard data from the Apollo missions is MISSING.

All the numbers, calculations, all the math and telemetry from the missions are GONE. They don't know where they went, what happened... its just gone. The biggest accomplishment of mankind, and the data is missing.

It is impossible to confirm the calculations, or exactly how it was all navigated because the specific data is gone.

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Postby Masato » Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:49 pm

Did you know that ALL missions to the moon were under Nixon's watch? Every one.

Then it all stopped, and no one ever considered doing it again, ever. This is proof of nothing but I find it interesting.

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Postby Masato » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:07 pm

I like this video of the lander rocketing out from the moon's gravity, ready to navigate back to earth as it hurtles around the sun.



Amazing camera work! Nice pan up, tracking it along as it goes up.

Feel sorry for the poor bastard they left behind to shoot the footage though, he went out like a trooper

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Postby Masato » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:12 pm

I am no scientist nor mathematician, but if the moon is approximately 1/6th of earth's gravity, wouldn't you need approximately 1/6th the thrust to escape it's surface?

Does that ^^^ look like 1/6th of this?:





what am I missing? would atmosphere make such a difference?

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Postby Jehannum » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:31 pm

lol Masato going down the rabbit hole!!

The wiki for the conspiracy theories makes me feel like I'm dumb for even considering the possibility it was faked in some way :(

and over 400,000 people would've had to be in on it? that's a hell of a lot, and way too many for it to be ALL fake (in my opinion)

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Postby Masato » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:31 am

When in a rabbit hole always listen to skeptics or debunkers if they look like they may be legit. Here is a presentation by some super smart looking fellow at NVIDIA claiming to 'debunk conspiracy theories'.

Turned out to be the lamest debunking I've ever seen, lol. Like comically empty, 15 minutes of him showing off a simple CGI model they made, supposedly all accurate to scale but I doubt his light source is the true distance of the sun.

He asks for applause numerous times for his great CGI skills, and whittles the entire question of 'conspiracy theories' down into a few simple questions about 1 single photo, which he proudly explains using his not-to-scale computer model as proof.

Thanks mr. Science guy, nice to know its all settled now. Hope you didn't spend too much time on your presentation



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