Laurel Canyon, MKULTRA,Nazis,Charles Manson, Gulf of Tonkin

[greenseed]

i found the actual SI articlehttp://www.si.com/vault/1981/06/29/825752/letter-from-the-publisher and i added it to Pauls wikipedia page. We'll see how long it stays up. I agree, in light of all this info it's unlikely he was just a producer.

[greenseed]

Heres a good article connecting Bernays with Leary and a bunch of other pertinent info

http://www.gnosticmedia.com/manufacturing-the-deadhead-a-product-of-social-engineering-by-joe-atwill-and-jan-irvin/

[Masato]

^ Bernays and Leary, you say?

Hmmm interesting

Thanks again greenseed, great thread

[Masato]

Here is a good THC I found where the guest adamantly believes that Terrence McKenna was pure CIA shill

He also gets pretty mad in the last half a few times, lol which is rare cuz usually THC is really good at keeping things cool.

Says even Alan Watts, Aldous Huxley, & the whole Leary gang were CIA goons pushing a very specific agenda. The host tries to explore different possibilities but the guest will have none of it, lol

[Som-Pong]

I enjoyed Food of The Gods. I don't give a fuck if McKenna is a shill or not, good writer with interesting topics.

[Daglord]

I enjoyed Food of The Gods. I don't give a fuck if McKenna is a shill or not, good writer with interesting topics.

fucking A. agreed.

still not convinced he was a shill. that comment they attribute to him "confessing" is open for interpretation imo.

[Daglord]

Here is a good THC I found where the guest adamantly believes that Terrence McKenna was pure CIA shill

He also gets pretty mad in the last half a few times, lol which is rare cuz usually THC is really good at keeping things cool.

Says even Alan Watts, Aldous Huxley, & the whole Leary gang were CIA goons pushing a very specific agenda. The host tries to explore different possibilities but the guest will have none of it, lol

that episode fucked with greg's head.

I still listen to gnostic media, but jan irvin is a dickhead. always thought so.

[Masato]

I think a lot of these 'CIA shills' are people who do what they do honestly, they just happen to serve a purpose to others and so are supported/funded. It definitely adds a bit of skepticism, but to think that the Doors weren't real musicians, or that McKenna didn't genuinely enjoy taking and talking about psychedelics I think is wrong.

I did a lot of psychedelics in my past and love listening to McKenna discuss them and how one comes back to see the 'real' world etc. Then again I did them AFTER the hippy era, outside of any such mainstream culture and influence. I can see the trends back in the day being of a slightly different nature, and possibly harmful to a lot of people.

Its an interesting ?. Great thread

[Som-Pong]

I agree with your take on it Masato. Would be nice to have Megatherium who was there during the hippie days give his take on it. If I remember right he was very anti-hippie though.

[Masato]

Olde Phuque has stories. He was smuggling LSD from NYC to LA and up to Canada right at the peak of the hippie era.

Wish he would post more - YA HEAR ME OLDE PHUQUE???