Gray State Uncut & possibility that crowley was murdered

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Gray State Uncut & possibility that crowley was murdered

Postby Daglord » Fri Jan 23, 2015 3:03 pm

almost sounds like phillip marshall again, but this time they let the dog live? haven't really vetted much of this, but seems legit @ first glance.

Filmmaker David Crowley dead in murder-suicide confided “I’m not prone to suicide”
http://www.hagmannandhagmann.com/archives/1386

Upon hearing the news that filmmaker David Crowley of the Gray State project was found dead in an apparent murder/suicide along with his wife and 5-year old daughter, I immediately recalled our private conversation of October 3, 2012. It was about three hours before airtime when we first spoke, candidly and without the restrictions imposed by a program clock.

We talked about his vision for the film Gray State, a depiction of future events in a post-collapse America he recently launched. Mr. Crowley was very articulate and outlined his vision well. It was obvious that he had big plans for his project, and even bigger plans for his future. I recalled him being very detail oriented, and knew that creating this movie was not going to be a small or short project.

In addition to the film project, we discussed other matters – personal matters. He spoke of his wife and daughter with the pride of a loving husband and father. He spoke of past events that brought him to this point in his life. He spoke of what he saw as a country in dire trouble from a ruling elite who were bent on destruction of our country and our way of life. He was not, however, fanatical about what he saw taking place. He was reserved, measured and practical.

It was during our conversation that I chided him a bit about the dangers of his undertaking, that it might not be a popular move to appear on our radio show in the run-up to the 2012 elections. He chuckled and said that he was glad to have any opportunity, no matter how big or small, to expose the machinations of the corrupt and the complicit who were destroying the country in which his daughter would grow up.

It was during the latter part of our conversation that he made the statement that is most unsettling and troubling to me. It was six months after the death of Andrew Breitbart and five months before the “accident” that claimed the life of Michael Hastings. He ominously confided that he had no intentions of committing suicide or otherwise becoming a statistic as he had so much to live for. “I’m not prone to suicide,” he told me.

Although I lost touch of late, the narrative being constructed in the public about David Crowley is the complete opposite of the man I spoke with, joked with, and subsequently interviewed. I understand that people change, things happen, and people will surprise you. I’ve seen it many times. I get it.

What I don’t understand is the public’s acquiescence or resignation to the official narrative without question, especially considering the people who we’ve lost to questionable, if not outright strange circumstances. There is something very wrong here. The death of David Crowley, his wife and daughter is more than a tragedy. It seems to fit a disturbing pattern.

We need the complete truth about what happened, and not accept anything less. Although his death and the murder of his five year-old daughter and 28 year-old wife could have been by his hand, I’m not buying it. Others aren’t either.


^^ not mentioned, but the sliding glass door of his home was slightly ajar (just like marshall's "suicide") when found weeks later, therefore explaining why no signs of break-in.

seems AWFUL quick to be labeled a "murder-suicide" IMO.

I was under the impression that 'gray state' would be a fictional, docudrama-type movie...

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& below looks like a straight up doc. haven't watched. dropping for later.






I have chosen to release this RAW UNCUT version of Gray State: The Rise to insure versions of this movie reach the public, although this version is from nearly a year ago, you can get an idea, of the direction of the documentary. Any Questions?

(This was the documentary David Crowley was working on when he supposedly killed his wife, 5 year old child and himself. Friends, family and co-workers have said they do not believe it. That he was a great person, with a promising career and an extremely happy homelife. They believe he was murdered.)

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Postby Devil's Advocate » Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:43 am

I don't think he was murdered, at least not for the reasons people are thinking.

His death has raised awareness of this low budget movie to a far higher level than if he'd lived. More people will see it because of the publicity surrounding his death, so if they killed him to silence him, it hasn't worked.

Maybe the real plan was to kill him so that people did watch the movie.

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Postby Masato » Mon Jan 26, 2015 9:02 am

I watched about 95% of the film before I had to turn it off.

Shitty, shitty, stupid film. Contains NOTHING that Alex Jones wasn't already ranting about 10 years ago. Fear, anger, fear, fear, hatred, vioelnce, fear, and more anger.

Almost all the spokespeople in the film were the lowest of CT personalities imo. This is a hick film. Lets hope it doesn't get too much attention, it hurts the movement. The only result that can come from a film like this is a buncha gradeschool mentality 'muricans go all Mad Max militia and start some pointless riots. In which case the feds will just clamp down on em and it actually hurts their cause.

IMO we need POSITIVE leaders, who grow love and creative thinking. Getting mad is the first primal reaction - it may be necessary but is not productive. What kind of revolution is built on negative energies? Hate begets hate, its a downward spiral

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Postby The Anti-Archon » Wed Jan 28, 2015 11:43 am

The feeling I get off this entire "Gray State" thing is that it is a psyop designed to incite extremism in the conspiracy fringe. Now, I have no proof of this, but it has the hallmark of an Army operation. First of all, Crowley and his partners all had military backgrounds and had access to extensive use of military equipment for the trailer. The US military doesn't just let anybody use their shit. There are procedures and forms that need to be signed in triplicate. That means the US Army approved the use of the equipment in the trailer.

If it is a psyop, what better way to promote it than a staged murder? It turns this guy into a ready-made fallen hero martyr for whatever violent movement they are trying to foment.

On a more nebulous note, "Crowley"? Danny "August Mason"? Wink, wink, nudge, nudge, motherfuckers.

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Postby Masato » Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:01 pm

^^ good post AA

Yeah I din't like the vibe. There was nothing major about this film, ie; no big whistleblowings or crucial info. I don't see how anyone would be highly threatened by it, its nothing 1000 others haven't made in the past 14 years.

The creator was such an intense guy, kind of crazy imo, who knows what went down. Maybe he thought he was a suicide-martyr

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Postby Daglord » Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:34 pm

Masato wrote:I watched about 95% of the film before I had to turn it off.

Shitty, shitty, stupid film. Contains NOTHING that Alex Jones wasn't already ranting about 10 years ago. Fear, anger, fear, fear, hatred, vioelnce, fear, and more anger.

Almost all the spokespeople in the film were the lowest of CT personalities imo. This is a hick film. Lets hope it doesn't get too much attention, it hurts the movement. The only result that can come from a film like this is a buncha gradeschool mentality 'muricans go all Mad Max militia and start some pointless riots. In which case the feds will just clamp down on em and it actually hurts their cause.

IMO we need POSITIVE leaders, who grow love and creative thinking. Getting mad is the first primal reaction - it may be necessary but is not productive. What kind of revolution is built on negative energies? Hate begets hate, its a downward spiral


agreed. I couldn't finish either.

this prison planet, fear-porn doc is not what gray state was meant to be. gray state was to be a scripted, fictional account of a seasoned vet becoming disenchanted with what his country has become after returning home from the war (police state, FEMA camps, martial law, civil unrest, etc) & his steps to lead a resistance.

mass defections from the military, patriot/oath keeper movements, ordinary citizens rallying around the constitution & preparing a national insurgency against federal forces.

or something like that... would have been interesting.

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Postby Masato » Thu Jan 29, 2015 9:33 am

But there is some important realities to the content... people need to wake up and start dis-trusting the authorities for sure.

I just personally disagree with the delivery style.


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