Personal Letter from Huxley to Goerge Orwell

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Personal Letter from Huxley to Goerge Orwell

Postby Masato » Tue Apr 21, 2015 10:36 am

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In case you aren’t aware, Aldous Huxley was George Orwell’s French teacher at Eton College. The below letter contains Huxley’s brief review and initial thoughts on Orwell’s iconic masterpiece.

Wrightwood. Cal.

21 October, 1949

Dear Mr. Orwell,

It was very kind of you to tell your publishers to send me a copy of your book. It arrived as I was in the midst of a piece of work that required much reading and consulting of references; and since poor sight makes it necessary for me to ration my reading, I had to wait a long time before being able to embark on Nineteen Eighty-Four.

Agreeing with all that the critics have written of it, I need not tell you, yet once more, how fine and how profoundly important the book is. May I speak instead of the thing with which the book deals — the ultimate revolution? The first hints of a philosophy of the ultimate revolution — the revolution which lies beyond politics and economics, and which aims at total subversion of the individual’s psychology and physiology — are to be found in the Marquis de Sade, who regarded himself as the continuator, the consummator, of Robespierre and Babeuf. The philosophy of the ruling minority in Nineteen Eighty-Four is a sadism which has been carried to its logical conclusion by going beyond sex and denying it. Whether in actual fact the policy of the boot-on-the-face can go on indefinitely seems doubtful. My own belief is that the ruling oligarchy will find less arduous and wasteful ways of governing and of satisfying its lust for power, and these ways will resemble those which I described in Brave New World. I have had occasion recently to look into the history of animal magnetism and hypnotism, and have been greatly struck by the way in which, for a hundred and fifty years, the world has refused to take serious cognizance of the discoveries of Mesmer, Braid, Esdaile, and the rest.

Partly because of the prevailing materialism and partly because of prevailing respectability, nineteenth-century philosophers and men of science were not willing to investigate the odder facts of psychology for practical men, such as politicians, soldiers and policemen, to apply in the field of government. Thanks to the voluntary ignorance of our fathers, the advent of the ultimate revolution was delayed for five or six generations. Another lucky accident was Freud’s inability to hypnotize successfully and his consequent disparagement of hypnotism. This delayed the general application of hypnotism to psychiatry for at least forty years. But now psycho-analysis is being combined with hypnosis; and hypnosis has been made easy and indefinitely extensible through the use of barbiturates, which induce a hypnoid and suggestible state in even the most recalcitrant subjects.

Within the next generation I believe that the world’s rulers will discover that infant conditioning and narco-hypnosis are more efficient, as instruments of government, than clubs and prisons, and that the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging and kicking them into obedience. In other words, I feel that the nightmare of Nineteen Eighty-Four is destined to modulate into the nightmare of a world having more resemblance to that which I imagined in Brave New World. The change will be brought about as a result of a felt need for increased efficiency. Meanwhile, of course, there may be a large scale biological and atomic war — in which case we shall have nightmares of other and scarcely imaginable kinds.

Thank you once again for the book.

Yours sincerely,

Aldous Huxley

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Postby greenseed » Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:17 pm

Damnnnnnnnn. Good find Masato


Puts the drug revolution into even more perspective. Jan Irvin & Joe Atwill are all over this concept of mind controll through narcontics (entheogens?)

http://Www.gnosticmedia.com

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Postby Redneck » Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:12 pm

Huxley's family is full of high ranking members of the elite.

Thomas Huxley was known as Darwin's Bulldog, and he pushed the evolution theory hard.

Sir Julian Huxley FRS was the first Director of UNESCO and a notable evolutionary biologist and humanist.

Sir Andrew Huxley OM FRS won the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine in 1963. He was the second Huxley to become President of the Royal Society.


They also constantly interbred with the Darwin family, as did the Wedgewood family. This inbreeding resulted in recurring mental illness in each generation.

Orwell wrote 1984 as an outsider who had been given a glimpse of the future through his involvment with British intelligence. Huxley wrote Brave New World from the perspective of an informed insider, and adviser to the NWO.


Here Huxley talks enthusiastically about the elite eventually developing a chip that will stimulate the mind.


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Postby Masato » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:14 pm

"Within the next generation I believe that the world’s rulers will discover that infant conditioning and narco-hypnosis are more efficient, as instruments of government, than clubs and prisons, and that the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging and kicking them into obedience."

Crazy powerful words when put into context with Redneck's findings of his family connections

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Postby Redneck » Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:51 am

Masato wrote:"Within the next generation I believe that the world’s rulers will discover that infant conditioning and narco-hypnosis are more efficient, as instruments of government, than clubs and prisons, and that the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging and kicking them into obedience."

Crazy powerful words when put into context with Redneck's findings of his family connections




Darwinism, which the Huxley's were a major part of it becoming mainstream, is really about the survival of the fittest, which is the philosophy of the elite.

Julian Huxley was into eugenics big-time.


Eugenics and race


Julian Huxley was a prominent member of the British Eugenics Society,[72] and was Vice-President (1937–1944) and President (1959–1962). He thought eugenics was important for removing undesirable variants from the human gene pool; though after World War II he believed race was a meaningless concept in biology, and its application to humans was highly inconsistent.[73]

Huxley was an outspoken critic of the most extreme eugenicism in the 1920s and 1930s (the stimulus for which was the greater fertility of the 'feckless' poor compared to the 'responsible' prosperous classes). He was, nevertheless, a leading figure in the eugenics movement (see, for example, Eugenics manifesto). He gave the Galton memorial lecture twice, in 1936 and 1962. In his writing he used this argument several times: no-one doubts the wisdom of managing the germ-plasm of agricultural stocks, so why not apply the same concept to human stocks? "The agricultural analogy appears over and over again as it did in the writings of many American eugenicists."[74]

Huxley was one of many intellectuals at the time who believed that the lowest class in society was genetically inferior.[citation needed] In this passage, from 1941, he investigates a hypothetical scenario where social darwinism, capitalism, nationalism and the class society is taken for granted:

If so, then we must plan our eugenic policy along some such lines as the following:... The lowest strata, allegedly less well-endowed genetically, are reproducing relatively too fast. Therefore birth-control methods must be taught them; they must not have too easy access to relief or hospital treatment lest the removal of the last check on natural selection should make it too easy for children to be produced or to survive; long unemployment should be a ground for sterilization, or at least relief should be contingent upon no further children being brought into the world; and so on. That is to say, much of our eugenic programme will be curative and remedial merely, instead of preventive and constructive.[75]

Here, he does not demean the working class in general, but aims for "the virtual elimination of the few lowest and most degenerate types".[76] The sentiment is not at all atypical of the time, and similar views were held by many geneticists (William E. Castle, C.B. Davenport, H. J. Muller are examples), and by other prominent intellectuals.

However, Huxley advocated a completely different alternative, in which the lower classes are ensured a nutritious diet, education and facilities for recreation:

We must therefore concentrate on producing a single equalized environment; and this clearly should be one as favourable as possible to the expression of the genetic qualities that we think desirable. Equally clearly, this should include the following items. A marked raising of the standard of diet for the great majority of the population, until all should be provided both with adequate calories and adequate accessory factors; provision of facilities for healthy exercise and recreation; and upward equalization of educational opportunity. ... we know from various sources that raising the standard of life among the poorest classes almost invariably results in a lowering of their fertility. In so far, therefore, as differential class-fertility exists, raising the environmental level will reduce any dysgenic effects which it may now have.[77]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Hu ... s_and_race


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Postby Winnson » Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:45 pm

Truly great minds man. What a fucking amazing thread!

What would you give to have a few beers with Orwell and Huxley? Maybe a hoot or two too. What would you give just chill out and shoot the shit with them for a few hours, while getting buzzed?

I'd give my left nut I think.

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Postby Masato » Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:58 pm

^ I don't know man. Maybe just for information, but the quotes here from Huxley (and the premise of Brave New World) makes him look like a total elitist cunt. Openly discussing the rightful need for elites to hold power over the masses, wtf.

I have listened to a few audio interviews, he sounds like an elitist cunt when he talks too. His wife too, lol I have an interesting interview between Alan Watts and Huxley's wife its pretty interesting

I did however enjoy Huxley's books 'the Doors of Perception' and 'Heaven and Hell'... these were short works he produced almost immediately after first experimenting with LSD. As an ex-LSD enthusiast I found the books to be really great and reassuring, but I read them a long time ago. I wonder how I would read them now with a better understanding of Huxley's agendas and views.

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Orwell I bet was more of an every-man, one of us. I remember taking a course once on 'Animal Farm' and how it is an analogy for politics, specifically Russian political history and think its genius. 1984 was probably more bleak than Huxley's works because Orwell probably saw the ruling class through a much more negative light, the bad guys.

Huxley was one of those bad guys.

I wonder if Orwell answered the letter

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Postby Som-Pong » Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:07 am

The thing is that it makes perfect sense. Sadly

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Postby Redneck » Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:14 am

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In Brave New World, drugs aren't just pretty common; they're distributed en masse by the government. Yes, the government. So much for Just Say No, right? The drug in question here is soma, a hallucinogen described as "the perfect drug," with all the benefits (calming, surrealistic, ten-hour long highs) and none of those pesky drawbacks (you know, like brain damage). The citizens of the "World State" have been conditioned to love the drug, and they use it to escape any momentary bouts of dissatisfaction. And we mean any sense of dissatisfaction. The problem, as one character identifies, is that the citizens are essentially enslaved by the drug and turned into mindless drones. So while the government may encourage drug use, it only does so as a means of further controlling the population.

http://www.shmoop.com/brave-new-world/d ... theme.html





Funny thing is that both Orwell and Huxley were right. Both of their visions have become a merged reality. We get the propaganda and fake news, and complete invasion of privacy that Orwell wrote of, and we get the bread and circuses that Huxley wrote of. Football, UFC, Electronic gadgetry, porn, celebrity gossip and so on. Soma is alcohol, weed, anti-depressants etc.


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