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tianjin blast site / terrorism? (updated 13-17 parcel bombs)

Postby Diet Butcher » Sun Aug 23, 2015 8:40 am

According to a source in Beijing close to China’s top leadership, Chinese Communist Party leader Xi Jinping has made his first significant move against the former Party boss, and his chief rival, Jiang Zemin. The source said that Jiang and his two sons have been “placed under control,” meaning that their freedom of movement has been temporarily restricted.

Jiang Zemin was the leader of the Chinese Communist Party from 1989 to 2002. He stayed on as head of the military for another two years, and didn’t relinquish all military posts for a year after that. During his years in office and as he was departing, Jiang installed a series of cronies in key posts, some of whom ran their own fiefdoms outside the control of the formal leadership.

Much of the focus of Xi Jinping’s purge of the Communist Party over the last two and a half years has been about uprooting this political network and removing the Jiang Zemin holdovers one at a time. It has been accompanied by well-timed leaks to the press, and tantalizing reports and remarks by officials who have hinted about far-reaching political conspiracies that went to the top of the regime.

That Jiang Zemin was the ultimate godfather behind the political machinery that Xi Jinping sought to dismantle was widely understood in political circles in China, but had not been explicitly brought to the fore until an editorial in People’s Daily, the Party’s mouthpiece, on Aug. 10. The newspaper on that date published a barbed criticism of former leaders who interfere in the affairs of their successors, preventing them from “rolling up their sleeves and doing bold work.”

It also complained of leaders who, “being unhappy to retire … do everything they can to extend their power.”

Political commentators immediately identified the editorial as a direct assault on Jiang. “To those with the eyes to see, it’s clear at a glance that this article is a criticism of Jiang Zemin, without naming him,” wrote Hu Ping, a political analyst who lives in exile in New York, in a commentary on Radio Free Asia’s website.

In his communication with Epoch Times, the source said, “Originally he [that is, Xi Jinping] wanted to arrest Jiang next spring, leaving the rest of the year for Xi to take care of the economy … he originally didn’t want to do it this early.”

Lin Feng said that he is unsure whether it means that Jiang will now vanish from public view, given that in a number of other high-profile cases of officials being taken down, they were still permitted to briefly appear in public in one way or another even after they were reported to be under investigation, or even under internal Party disciplinary procedures. This included Guo Boxiong and Ling Jihua, the equivalent of chief of staff of the last Party leadership group.

The source added, “After the Tianjin incident, Xi Jinping couldn’t sleep for two nights.” The source intimated that Xi Jinping believed that Jiang Zemin had been behind the two massive explosions, equivalent to 21 tons of TNT, according to authorities, that ripped through a port facility in Tianjin, a coastal city in China, on Aug. 12.

The cause of the enormous explosions is unknown, according to the authorities. The crater left by the blast is the size of several street blocks, and the resultant fireball left thousands of cars charred, turning axles to dust. Buildings up to a mile away had windows shattered by the force of the explosion. A week after the explosion, the official death toll stands at 116, and locals are reporting toxic rains and dead fish washing ashore. Officials said that 700 tonnes (770 tons) of sodium cyanide, which can be deadly, was in the warehouse that exploded.

The theory that the explosions were somehow deliberate has been circulated with alacrity on overseas Chinese media outlets since soon after it took place.

A news site associated with Boxun, run from North Carolina, cited an exclusive source in reporting that “the detonation was set off by a vehicle packed with explosives … the truck was very carefully parked next to the warehouse, in the location closest to the flammable materials. The people quickly left, and about 15 minutes later the explosion took place, setting off a chain of explosions.”

Articles on Boxun, and on a number of outlets in Hong Kong, linked the explosions with Jiang Zemin.

Lin Feng, the editor with the Chinese edition of Epoch Times, said that Jiang’s people are known to leak news and rumours to overseas media outlets, and that if Jiang was somehow behind the explosion, he would want the matter publicized.

“The message seemed to be that ‘We can create chaos,'” Lin said. Social instability is blamed on the leadership, and would provide the conditions for limiting Xi Jinping’s power inside the Party, where the extent and severity of Xi’s anti-corruption campaign is understood to have inspired significant resentment.

*Sauce= Epoch Times

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Postby Edge Guerrero » Sun Aug 23, 2015 5:09 pm

- Good read guys, a decade ago i would only have acess to that type of information of the version tv's cared to show.
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Postby Daglord » Tue Aug 25, 2015 11:47 am

Diet Butcher wrote:The source added, “After the Tianjin incident, Xi Jinping couldn’t sleep for two nights.” The source intimated that Xi Jinping believed that Jiang Zemin had been behind the two massive explosions, equivalent to 21 tons of TNT, according to authorities, that ripped through a port facility in Tianjin, a coastal city in China, on Aug. 12.
The cause of the enormous explosions is unknown, according to the authorities. The crater left by the blast is the size of several street blocks, and the resultant fireball left thousands of cars charred, turning axles to dust. Buildings up to a mile away had windows shattered by the force of the explosion. A week after the explosion, the official death toll stands at 116, and locals are reporting toxic rains and dead fish washing ashore. Officials said that 700 tonnes (770 tons) of sodium cyanide, which can be deadly, was in the warehouse that exploded.

The theory that the explosions were somehow deliberate has been circulated with alacrity on overseas Chinese media outlets since soon after it took place.

A news site associated with Boxun, run from North Carolina, cited an exclusive source in reporting that “the detonation was set off by a vehicle packed with explosives … the truck was very carefully parked next to the warehouse, in the location closest to the flammable materials. The people quickly left, and about 15 minutes later the explosion took place, setting off a chain of explosions.”


seems consistent with that overlapped blast gif imho. not sure how accurate the image is, but crater site looks to be a located immediately within front gate & where one might park a truck to cause max damage & quickly bail without being noticed too much. unless they rearranged that port & the hazmat storage facilities in 8 months, I'm not convinced we are getting the truth about the blast.

nevermind the admitted illegal storing of such a massive hazardous chemical depot, in both location & size. if this was sabotage, someone was obviously aware of it & knew exactly where to hit. full spectrum win & massive coverup ensues.

Articles on Boxun, and on a number of outlets in Hong Kong, linked the explosions with Jiang Zemin.


very interesting. haven't heard one word about that.

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Postby Daglord » Tue Aug 25, 2015 12:30 pm

here is a vid from the real shandong chemical blast (fire) on saturday, aug 22nd. pretty uneventful imho.






a US ammunitions depot caught fire shortly after in Japan (aug 23rd). again, uneventful, but makes for a good target.






hard to say if these are all acts of sabotage or accidents due to bad working conditions, lax safety standards and/or incompetence. doing a little research on this, you find that industrial accidents in china aren't exactly rare, just covered up.

another theory is that they leaked that shandong footage from last july (& RT ran with it) to get people all confused about this latest blast. that was a pretty big fuck up. GOOGLE BOMB? google search "china explosion" now & it's all over the place. shandong has now buried tianjing.

we will probably never know unless shit really starts popping off. RIP.

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Postby Edge Guerrero » Tue Aug 25, 2015 12:42 pm

Daglord wrote:here is a vid from the real shandong chemical blast (fire) on saturday, aug 22nd. pretty uneventful imho.

a US ammunitions depot caught fire shortly after in Japan (aug 23rd). again, uneventful, but makes for a good target.

hard to say if these are all acts of sabotage or accidents due to bad working conditions, lax safety standards and/or incompetence. doing a little research on this, you find that industrial accidents in china aren't exactly rare, just covered up.

- I've assumed that those type of acidents were rare, but if the workers have long hours, tehy will starting to guet tired and make errors.

another theory is that they leaked that shandong footage from last july (& RT ran with it) to get people all confused about this latest blast. that was a pretty big fuck up. GOOGLE BOMB? google search "china explosion" now & it's all over the place. shandong has now buried tianjing.

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Postby Daglord » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:35 pm

more aftermath pics released. article titled 'confirmation tianjing was nuked' & from VT. not sure I agree with the 'nuke' part, but I think it's looking more & more likely that this wasn't caused by a chemical warehouse explosion. like we said, no warehouse @ ground zero (unless moved). blast energy would have went up, not down. crater site near front entrance.

interesting article, but again, from VT (admitted disinfo) so take it with a grain of salt. I don't believe it was a nuke, nor do I believe it was a chemical warehouse/fuel depot. shipment of explosives sounds way too convenient imho. but interesting analysis on the crater.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/08/25/confirmation-tianjin-was-nuked/

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Two weeks ago a devastating explosion took place in the port city of Tianjin, China. Official reports claimed a chemical storage facility had caught fire and exploded. Mobile phone footage taken by residents showed an enormous blast and fireball.

Within days, aerial photos revealed the stunning extent of the damage. A steaming black crater marks ground zero, while the apocalyptic surrounding landscape is charred and flattened. Rows of burnt-out cars and twisted shipping containers stretch into the distance on all sides.

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Normal people are not trained in what to look at so they simply ignore the obvious. However, once you see enough explosions like this you begin to spot the artefacts in the photos real fast. Unfortunately all of these people that know this stuff usually work for the government. Just like I did.

The big clue is in the ash produced and the exploding radiators on the cars. They show the radiation and the blast patterns the best. All melted rubber, glass, and aluminium but no melted steel? This tells you it is from radiation and not from a gasoline fire. Temps between 1500 degrees C for melting aluminium and less than 3,000 degrees C for melting steel. Everything organic ashes below 450 degrees C.

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The Crater at Ground Zero

This was NOT an accident, the fracture pattern around the crater proves a to be a shallow sub ground burst. If it was a sub ground burst, then a small nuclear weapon is the biggest possibility because once a nuke has to push dirt, the blinding flash will not be seen. A slightly subsurface detonation would explain why camera sensors did not get strange artefacts. And if it was not a nuke, it was something else incredibly huge, but not a fuel air bomb because fuel air bombs will not leave craters. They also leave an oily carbide residue on everything.

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A little bit more of a detailed explanation: If the blast happened at ground level, almost all of the energy would go upwards and the blast would not have made a large deep crater, especially one large enough and deep enough to make that lake. If you look to the right hand side of the lake, you can see fracture patterns in the earth, which were caused by the earth being compressed sideways and not downwards. This would only be done with a sub surface blast. After the blast, the earth bounced back towards the centre of the lake, which opened up the cracks.

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Look closely at the ground around the lake. Those who claimed it was not a nuke cited the fact that if it was, everything around the crater would be vaporized and wiped clean. Now that we have the real crater pic from the big blast, YEP, it matches that perfectly. Take a look at the containers laying in the lower left corner of this picture – they have no paint or colour, which means they had the surfaces incinerated by intense heat only a nuke or other super weapon would reach. If this was a carbide blast, they would be black or have their original colours to some degree, complete colour change to only gray proves this explosion was FREAKING HOT.

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That type and size of blast crater will only happen if a massive bomb goes off a few feet underground, such as a tactical nuke in a drain pipe which leaves scant few alternative options. No chemical blast did that, PERIOD. The building that is still standing in the upper right hand side of the frame is a typical example of what is left after a nuclear test, concrete buildings seldom get levelled, but they do get gutted by nuclear blasts. Just look through pictures of the soviet nuclear tests and you will see this. Bottom line? The aftermath is completely consistent with a nuclear blast.

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Postby Daglord » Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:15 pm

china rocked by another chemical blast? need confirmation: https://twitter.com/PDChina/status/638411877270323200

11:03 AM - 31 Aug 2015

Breaking: A blast seen and heard in a chemical industry zone in Lijin, Dongying City of Shandong around 23:25 Mon.

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China: Explosion rips through chemical factory at Dongying city
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/china-explosion-rips-chemical-factory-221359769.html#Z30Bq8G

A massive blast has rocked the industrial zone of Lijin in Shandong, with flames and black smoke coming from what is believed to be a chemical factory. It is not yet known if there are anyone was killed or injured in the explsion which happened at around 11.30pm local time.

State radio revealed that a single blast occurred at a chemical plant in the city shortly before midnight. This latest incident comes almost three weeks after 158 people died in a number of massive explosions at chemical warehouses in Tianjin - the world's 10th-largest port.

The chemical plant explosion is third blast to hit a Chinese industrial facility within a month. China formally detained 12 government officials and company executives following the blasts on suspicion of dereliction of duty or abuse of power.

On 12 August, explosions at a warehouse storing dangerous chemicals tore apart an industrial park in the northern port city of Tianjin, killing at least 145 people.

Dr Tony Cox, a fellow of the Institution of Mechanical Engineers and an accident investigation expert, questioned why a facility holding such large quantities of volatile chemicals had not been placed in a more isolated area.

"The big issue here is the proximity between the facility and its neighbours," he told The Telegraph. "Not only do you have flats with their windows being broken at least a kilometre away - which shouldn't be happening - you also have neighbouring facilities with their own workforces who could be at risk.

"It also appears to have been a huge blast, which suggests that whatever hazardous goods were inside were kept in very large quantities together rather than separated into smaller individual lots."

Anger over safety standards is growing in China over what many believe are lax regulations which can endanger residents. There are accusations that China has traded safety for cheap and rapid economic growth.

"China's growth in the chemicals industry has been extremely rapid in the last 15 years or so. It's grown from being a major importer to being a major producer of almost every single petrochemical you can think of today," Ashish Pujari, senior director of IHS Chemical in Singapore told CNBC.

"There are producers who are known to cut corners, in terms of regulation. There are very blatant examples of people constructing plants and almost getting into production even before the whole project has been approved."

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Postby Daglord » Mon Aug 31, 2015 10:15 pm

Reports: Massive Explosion Rocks Chinese City
By Michele Richinick 8/31/15 at 2:34 PM
http://www.newsweek.com/reports-massive-explosion-rocks-china-367322

A massive explosion reportedly erupted in a chemical industrial zone late Monday night in China, according to the state-run newspaper, People's Daily.

The incident reportedly occurred in the eastern province of Shandong shortly after 11 p.m. on Monday.

It was not immediately known whether anyone was killed or injured from the blast.

A dramatic video is circulating on social media that shows a massive fireball, followed by a loud explosion. But the footage is believed to be the scene from one of two huge explosions that erupted on August 12 in the Chinese city of Tianjin, killing at least 139 people.

The blasts occurred in a storage area for toxic chemicals and gas. As anger over safety standards grows in China, officials recently detained 12 people and accused 11 officials and port executives of suspected abuse of power.

This is a developing story and will be updated as more information becomes available.

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Postby Daglord » Mon Aug 31, 2015 10:57 pm

must be true if RT says so :roll:

Enormous new factory blast rocks Chinese industrial region - reports
Published time: 31 Aug, 2015 19:25
Edited time: 31 Aug, 2015 19:58
http://www.rt.com/news/313933-china-factory-blast-new/

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Another huge blast at a chemical facility has reportedly occurred in the Chinese province of Shandong. The explosion, located in an industrial zone in Lijin, Dongying City, happened late on Monday, China's People's Daily reported.

The blast was so massive it could be seen and heard from a great distance. A chemical factory is believed to have been in the area. According to People's Daily, the blast happened at around 11:30pm local time (3:30pm GMT).

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Postby Edge Guerrero » Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:52 pm

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