Donald Trump: establishment trojan horse?

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Donald Trump: establishment trojan horse?

Postby Daglord » Wed May 11, 2016 11:10 pm

the list keeps growing :roll:

Steve Mnuchin - former Goldman Sachs partner, Clinton donor & Soros' money man. named trump's national finance chairman.

Richard Haas - CFR president & Trilateral commission member. Bush guy. Bilderberg attendee. advising trump on national security.

Jeff Sessions - votes yes on patriot act. votes yes on unconstitutional wiretapping (consistent with trump's views on the 4th amendment). named chairman of trump's national security committee.

Chris Christie - where to begin? you can kiss your privacy goodbye, expect a police state & forget about marijuana legalization.

and best for last...

Rudy Giuliani.

trump has already mentioned him as being in charge of homeland security (wtf?), now this:

Donald Trump’s plan to deal with terrorism is a throwback to the George W. Bush era
http://rare.us/story/donald-trumps-plan-to-deal-with-terrorism-is-a-throwback-to-the-george-w-bush-era/

During an interview with “Fox and Friends” on Wednesday, presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump gave a big hint about how we might expect him to wage the war on terror.

“We’ll figure it out, and we will get it going, but we have to be extremely careful,” he said in typical Trumpian fashion. Then he added the kicker: “I’m thinking about setting up a commission, perhaps headed by Rudy Giuliani, to take a very serious look at” terrorism.

Now, Trump is sometimes refreshingly right on foreign policy. For instance, he correctly critiques Hillary Clinton’s recklessly hawkish record, and he is the only presidential frontrunner of this cycle from either major party to point out that the F-35 program is an expensive failure.

Unfortunately, he’s right in the manner of a stopped clock.






trump is considering naming Rudy Giuliani as chief terrorism advisor. Rudy fucking Giuliani. http://www.ontheissues.org/Rudy_Giuliani.htm

the same guy who thinks the patriot act & Iraq/Afghanistan wars were "very, very good" for US.

the same guy who's primary plan for keeping America safe is to "go on the offense" & engage in a "long war".

the same guy who doesn't feel the president should need congressional approval to go to war. the neocon's neocon who thinks we should be bombing everyone @ the president's discretion.

the same guy who dropped the ball on 9/11 & is rumored to have prior knowledge?

Is this the guy that should be leading the committee taking a "very serious look at terrorism"?

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Postby Daglord » Fri May 13, 2016 1:35 am

speaking of Giuliani, going on the offense & congressional approval for war... this came up today.

"examing America's role in the world". May 12, 2016. this is a foreign policy I can support.

Senator Rand Paul once again being the only voice of reason and morality on war.






"we think we can just blow up Qaddafi & all of a sudden, out of that, Thomas Jefferson will get elected. I think it's a naive notion. it needs to go back to not that 'we need to be better prepared', maybe sometimes our "selective engagement" should be "this is the time we shouldn't select to militarily engage".

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Postby Daglord » Fri May 13, 2016 5:47 pm

today, already trying to swing his executive power around, Trump threatened Amazon & the owner of the NY Times if he continued to look into his past & write stories about him.

Donald Trump threatens Amazon as payback for Washington Post articles he doesn't like
http://www.vox.com/2016/5/13/11669850/donald-trump-threatens-amazon






Thursday night, speaking with friendly Fox News host Sean Hannity, Donald Trump outlined his theory that his presidential campaign attracts journalistic scrutiny from the Washington Post as part of a larger conspiracy to help Amazon avoid sales taxes, and threatened to take revenge on the e-commerce giant if he is elected president.

Amazon is controlling so much of what they're doing and what they've done is he bought this paper for practically nothing and he's using that as a tool for political power against me and against other people and I'll tell you what, we can let him get away with it.

This is in addition to his previous idea of "closing up the internet". :shock: :lol:

Donald Trump thinks he can call Bill Gates to 'close up' the internet
http://www.theverge.com/2015/12/7/9869308/donald-trump-close-up-the-internet-bill-gates






"We're losing a lot of people because of the internet," Trump said. "We have to see Bill Gates and a lot of different people that really understand what's happening. We have to talk to them about, maybe in certain areas, closing that internet up in some ways.

Somebody will say, 'Oh freedom of speech, freedom of speech.' These are foolish people. we have a lot of foolish people. we have A LOT of foolish people"

Who the fuck cheers someone threatening to "close up the internet" or calling the freedom of speech "foolish" ???????

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He has also mentioned "opening up libel laws", allowing him to sue the press.

Donald Trump: We're going to 'open up' libel laws
http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/02/donald-trump-libel-laws-219866






Donald Trump said on Friday he plans to change libel laws in the United States so that he can have an easier time suing news organizations.

During a rally in Fort Worth, Texas, Trump began his usual tirade against newspapers such as The New York Times and The Washington Post, saying they're "losing money" and are "dishonest." The Republican presidential candidate then took a different turn, suggesting that when he's president they'll "have problems."

"One of the things I'm going to do if I win, and I hope we do and we're certainly leading. I'm going to open up our libel laws so when they write purposely negative and horrible and false articles, we can sue them and win lots of money.

last but not least, he thinks snowden should be executed.

Donald Trump on Edward Snowden: Kill the ‘traitor’
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jul/2/donald-trump-edward-snowden-kill-traitor/






Edward Snowden, the man at the heart of the NSA information leaks, is nothing but a “traitor” — and America ought to recreate history in dealing with him, real estate mogul Donald Trump said on a “Fox & Friends” interview.

In other words, execute him, Mr. Trump implied.

“I think Snowden is a terrible threat, I think he’s a terrible traitor, and you know what we used to do in the good old days when we were a strong country — you know what we used to do to traitors, right?” Trump said, Politico reported.

THE most important right we have & Trump wants to shit all over it. GTFO.

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Senator Rand Paul debating Donald Trump on war crimes and the first amendment at CNN Republican debate in Las Vegas, Nevada

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Postby Daglord » Sat May 14, 2016 12:05 am

how does Trump feel about the 4th amendment? the right to be secure in your person, house, paper, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures?

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Trump Says He Supports Reauthorizing Patriot Act, NSA Metadata Collection
http://truthinmedia.com/trump-supports-reauthorizing-patriot-act-nsa-metadata-collection/






In the above-embedded clip, Hewitt asks Trump, “On metadata collection, Ted Cruz is glad the NSA got out of it. Marco Rubio wants it back. What’s Donald Trump think?”

“Well, I tend to err on the side of security, I must tell you,” Trump replied, “and I’ve been there for longer than you would think. But, you know, when you have people that are beheading if you’re a Christian and frankly for lots of other reasons, when you have the world looking at us and would like to destroy us as quickly as possible, I err on the side of security, and so that’s the way it is, that’s the way I’ve been, and some people like that, frankly, and some people don’t like that.”

“And I’m not just saying that since Paris, I’m saying for quite some time. I assume when I pick up my telephone people are listening to my conversations anyway, if you want to know the truth. It’s pretty sad commentary, but I err on the side of security,” said Trump.

Hewitt then asked, “Alright, so you would be in favor of restoring the Patriot Act?”

“I think that would be fine. As far as I’m concerned, that would be fine,” Trump responded.

this is just ridiculous :oops:

Trump: We have to take out ISIL members' families
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/trump-kill-isil-families-216343






Donald Trump ratcheted up his anti-Islamic State rhetoric another notch Wednesday morning, remarking in an interview that if he were president, he would "take out their families" and "knock the hell out of" the terrorist group.

"It's a horrible thing. They're using them as shields. But we're fighting a very politically correct war. And the other thing is with the terrorists, you have to take out their families," he explained. "They, they care about their lives. Don’t kid yourself. But they say they don’t care about their lives. You have to take out their families.”

he has NEVER once mentioned not funding ISIS as a solution. just "knock the hell out of 'em". :roll:

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this doesn't sound good. "unprecedented measures"? what haven't we already done? :shock:

Trump hints at deep surveillance, special IDs for Muslims
https://www.rt.com/usa/322752-trump-muslim-database-surveillance/

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump says the Paris terror attacks mean that "we’re going to have to do certain things that were frankly unthinkable a year ago" in the US, including creating databases of Muslims and closely monitoring mosques.

Trump said he is concerned about the large Muslim population in the United States, and that, if he had his way, there would be increased surveillance, including warrantless searches, of American Muslims.

“We’re going to have to do things that we never did before. And some people are going to be upset about it, but I think that now everybody is feeling that security is going to rule,” Trump told Yahoo News.

“And certain things will be done that we never thought would happen in this country in terms of information and learning about the enemy. And so we’re going to have to do certain things that were frankly unthinkable a year ago.”

and, once again, government-sanctioned torture is back on the table :(

Donald Trump: I'd bring back 'a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding'
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/06/donald-trump-waterboarding-republican-debate-torture






Donald Trump said he would “bring back a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding”, or simulated drowning, at the Republican debate in Manchester, New Hampshire, on Saturday.

Think about all the time & effort put into fighting the Patriot Act & exposing the abuse @ Abu Ghraib?

filibustering NSA data collection, exposing drone programs & unlawful detainment, protecting the 1st & 4th amendments?

why the hell is the CT community so far up Trump's ass? have we really lost our way this much?





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Postby Daglord » Sat May 14, 2016 6:35 pm

Sheldon Adelson has joined Trump's Team :shock:

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so much for self-funding, no big-money lobbyists, special interest groups, etc...

Sheldon Adelson Is Poised to Give Donald Trump a Donation Boost
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/14/us/politics/sheldon-adelson-donald-trump.html

The casino magnate Sheldon G. Adelson told Donald J. Trump in a private meeting last week that he was willing to contribute more to help elect him than he has to any previous campaign, a sum that could exceed $100 million, according to two Republicans with direct knowledge of Mr. Adelson’s commitment.

As significant, Mr. Adelson, a billionaire based in Las Vegas, has decided that he will significantly scale back his giving to congressional Republicans and direct most of his contributions to groups dedicated to Mr. Trump’s campaign. The two Republicans familiar with Mr. Adelson’s plans spoke anonymously because they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly****.

**** of course they aren't :roll:

the SAME Sheldon Adelson who throws millions of dollars around demonizing marijuana:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheldon_Adelson

Fighting the "mainstreaming" of cannabis legalization is a personal passion of Adelson, whose son Mitchell died of a drug overdose. Mitchell was said to have used cocaine and heroin from an early age.

Adelson believes cannabis is a gateway drug. Andy Abboud, vice president of Las Vegas Sands, has stated that "Pro marijuana folks have awoken a sleeping giant in Sheldon and Miriam Adelson".

Remember, Trump once called legalization in CO a "failed experiment".

Chris Christie, Jeff Sessions, Rudy Giuliani & now Sheldon Adelson - ALL anti-marijuana, medical or otherwise.

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Adelson owns the Israeli daily newspaper 'Israel Hayom' & has said his most important issue when considering which candidates to support in U.S. elections is "the safety of Israel".

"anti-establishment"

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Postby Daglord » Sun May 15, 2016 12:15 pm

Trump's top aid (Paul Manafort) lobbied for the Pakistani Intelligence Agency (ISI).






Top Trump aide lobbied for Pakistani spy front
https://www.yahoo.com/news/top-trump-aide-lobbied-for-1409744144007222.html

For more than five years, Donald Trump’s new top campaign aide, Paul Manafort, lobbied for a Washington-based group that Justice Department prosecutors have charged operated as a front for Pakistan’s intelligence service, according to court and lobbying records reviewed by Yahoo News.

Manafort’s work in the 1990s as a registered lobbyist for the Kashmiri American Council was only one part of a wide-ranging portfolio that, over several decades, included a gallery of controversial foreign clients ranging from Philippine President Ferdinand Marcos and Zaire’s brutal dictator Mobutu Sese Seko to an Angolan rebel leader accused by human rights groups of torture. His role as an adviser to Ukraine’s then prime minister, Viktor Yanukovych, an ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, prompted concerns within the Bush White House that he was undermining U.S. foreign policy. It was considered so politically toxic in 2008 that presidential candidate John McCain nixed plans for Manafort to manage the Republican National Convention — a move that caused a rupture between Manafort and his then business partner, Rick Davis, who at the time was McCain’s campaign manager.

Manafort’s work for the Kashmiri group has so far not gotten any media attention.

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The Kashmiri American Council was a “scam” that amounted to a “false flag operation that Mr. Fai was operating on behalf of the ISI,” Gordon D. Kromberg, the assistant U.S. attorney who prosecuted the case, said in March 2012 at Fai’s sentencing hearing in federal court. While posing as a U.S.-based nonprofit funded by American donors sympathetic to the plight of Kashmiris, it was actually bankrolled by the ISI in order to deflect public attention “away from the involvement of Pakistan in sponsoring terrorism in Kashmir and elsewhere,” Kromberg said. Fai, who pleaded guilty to conspiracy and tax fraud charges, was then sentenced to two years in federal prison.

Lobbying records filed with the secretary of the Senate show that Manafort’s lobbying firm, Black, Manafort, Stone & Kelly, was paid $700,000 by the Kashmiri American Council between 1990 and 1995. This was among more than $4 million that federal prosecutors alleged came from the ISI; Fai collected the money over 20 years from “straw” American donors who were being reimbursed from secret accounts in Pakistan. (The funds were in some cases delivered to Fai in brown paper bags stuffed with cash — and then the donors reimbursed with wire transfers from ISI operatives, according to an FBI affidavit.)






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Postby Daglord » Sun May 15, 2016 10:10 pm

Roger Stone - Trump's political advisor, stooge, strategist & CTard.

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Roger Jason Stone, Jr. (born 1952) is an American political consultant, lobbyist and strategist, noted for his use of opposition research, usually for candidates of the Republican Party. He was a principal with Black, Manafort, Stone and Kelly.

The New York Times has described Stone as a "renowned infighter" and a "seasoned practitioner of hard-edged politics. During the 2004 presidential campaign, CBS News described Stone as a "veteran Republican strategist".

BLACK, MANAFORT, STONE & KELLY (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black,_Manafort,_Stone_and_Kelly)

The firm was one of the first political consulting concerns to work for Ronald Reagan's presidential candidacy in 1980,and would later also have extensive connections to the presidential administrations of George H. W. Bush and Bill Clinton.

The firm has represented numerous foreign governments and heads of state, including Mohamed Siad Barre of Somalia, Ferdinand Marcos of the Philippines, Mobutu Sese Seko of Zaire, and Jonas Savimbi of Angola. During the 1988 presidential campaign in the United States, it was disclosed that Black, Manafort retained the island nation of the Bahamas as a client at a time its leadership was being attacked for alleged ties to drug traffickers. BMSK officials insisted that they intended only to help the Bahamas obtain more United States aid for efforts to curb drug smugglers.

Domestically the firm has represented Bethlehem Steel and Tobacco Institute, and helped elect a slew of lawmakers—including Senators Phil Gramm, Jesse Helms, Charles McCurdy Mathias Jr., Arlen Specter, Paula Hawkins and David F. Durenberger, and worked on legislation that benefitted the firm's clients.

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In 2016, Stone formed a pro-Trump activist group, Stop the Steal, and threatened "Days of Rage" if Republican party leaders try to deny the nomination to Trump at the Republican National Convention in Cleveland. The Washington Post reported that Stone "is organizing [Trump] supporters as a force of intimidation," noting that Stone "has ... threatened to publicly disclose the hotel room numbers of delegates who work against Trump." Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus said that Stone's threat to publicize the hotel room numbers of delegates was "just totally over the line."

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Roger Stone is still acting as Trump's stooge even though he (allegedly) has left his campaign (he didn't). this is Trump's 'Infowars' connection & (IMO) the source of all the shit thrown @ Cruz. dirty pool player & CTard who praises Alex Jones' & Jim Fetzer's "amazing reputations". LOLOLOLOLOL.

In 2008, Daily Beast described him as a "self-admitted hit man for the GOP."

A GOP Dirty Trickster Has Second Thoughts
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2008/11/20/a-gop-dirty-trickster-has-second-thoughts.html

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Consultant Roger Stone, the notorious political hitman who helped George W. Bush prevail in the 2000 Florida recount, tells The Daily Beast that he wishes he hadn’t.


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