PedoGate

[Canuckster]

I've heard a rumor and am currently trying to verify it that the idiot who went and shot up the place was recently charged and in jail for running someone over. Hopefully I can find some info on this later

[The Anti-Archon]

I really doubt Clinton and Obama take part in the pedophilia. It seems to be Alefantis and his weirdo friends, with the Podesta brothers probably having knowledge about it. I wouldn't be surprised if Clinton and Obama had heard whispers about what goes on, but they're not foolish enough to engage in something that would be so politically liable.

agree. Alefantis & Co. appear to be into some weird, gay shit & not sure how deep that goes. it starts going retard when they connect Hillary & Obama as a sure thing. Is this a case of muddying the waters to delegitimize everything? Monica Petersen still has the wheels turning.

was told that Pizzagate the Documentary was the one to watch so I gave it a shot. first 10 mins it states that Hillary is suffering from Kuru (a disease contracted from cannabilism) from "eating too much human flesh" and he uses this clip as proof of her having the disease.



needless to say, I stopped right there, he was dead serious.

was that dude who went to investigate Comet Pizza a psy-op to make CTers look unhinged & dangerous? (that camera thing is kind of weird if true).

or is he really that disturbed over this that he thinks showing up & firing a gun inside the pizza shop is going to accomplish something? did he really think that children were kept in the basement 24/7? that it was going to be that easy? (too stupid to believe IMHO, but after Sandy Hook anything is possible).

seems all to convenient for the "fake news' angle/crackdown the MSM is pushing lately.

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I'n having all kinds of problems with forum & can't get into the thread Masato linked above (pedo rings). was going to drop this in there to not distract from pizzagate, but it won't open. move there if you want/can. found it on a sidebar of a pizzagate vid, & it hasn't been online as far as I can remember. I have searched for it a few times.

An Open Secret, the new film from Amy Berg (who also made Deliver Us From Evil).






I did alot of research on this film (& specifically Peck & Geffen's company) somewhere on the OG, who knows what thread that was in though. this doc was a big deal @ the time & I'm surprised it's available. may not be for long.

**** found it. won't post contents until I can get in the other thread (this forum is fucked for me right now). good thread with various opinions. solid research on SAG-AFTRA, DEN, Marc Collins Rector, that Nickelodeon POS, Bryan Singer, etc. not meaning to Hijack, but relevant & important (move to other thread if/when you can).

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/forums/OtherGround/Elijah-Woods-on-Holly-Wood-Pedophiles:2562115-14

Great finds and links to other established, very real matters. PizzaGate stinks as a made-up/limited hang-out psy-op readymade to smear the CT community and help institute greater control and censorship of the internet. There have been multiple scandals and the frayed edges of a cover-up of a massive pedophilia problem in the upper reaches of society for decades. While I think there is some truth to Alefantis and the Podestas being involved, the wild claims about other political figures being tossed around with very little validation make me skeptical.

As Daglord just illustrated with this look at the Hollywood pedos, there are a ton of actual events, names, places and evidence to dig your teeth into if you are concerned about actual child trafficking. Pizza Gate smells funny and is being used as the hammer against truth I thought it would. You can't shame the public into not looking at the truth unless you give Stephen Colbert some material to work with.

[Daglord]

Join The Higherside Chats as host Greg Carlwood discuses the latest details of Pizzagate, Podesta and pedophiles with returning guest, David Seaman.

When it comes to the dark underbelly of the conspiracy world, one of the most consistent claims and rumors over the years about the political, religious, and Hollywood elite is that they maintain and protect an international child tracking ring. The abuses of these children range from every twisted sexual desire, and ritual working you might imagine to even as some claim, engaging in cannibalism.

We've seen a few instances where these persistent claims have been substantiated over the years: Jerry Epstine's private pedophile island, the Franklin Scandal, and the threads of abuse at Canadian catholic run orphanages. Guys like Kevin Annette have been exposing these atrocities for years, but like always the toothpaste seems to get stuffed back in the tube and accountability becomes a pipe dream.

However, with the exposure of John Podesta's emails, and the revelations about Spirit Cooking, and what is now being called PizzaGate – it looks like this is the best chance yet at exposing and breaking this longstanding cycle of power and abuse.

One of the brave journalists digging deep and shouting from the rooftops about this, is returning guest David Seaman. David has been one of the most prominent voices in this area, as he's made this scandal his focus. As a studied journalist, David joins The Higherside to help walk us through this tangled web of dark connections.

a few things I took from this^ & I'm admittedly skeptical. give it a listen.

David Seaman, one of the lead investigators of Pizzagate, spends the first 5-10 minutes talking about Kim Noble, MK Ultra, etc & then admits "he's not sure if the Podesta's have any Noble art in their home" (15:00) but "there is some disturbing stuff" (arch of hysteria?) based on MSM articles (mentions the WaPo article).

Married, With Art
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A43480-2004Sep22.html

they definitely have odd taste in art, I won't begin to judge that, but the Arch of Hysteria is a popular piece that sits in the National Gallery of Canada, it's not a "statue of a Jeffery Dahmer victim recreated".

a good amount of Pizzagate seems to focus on the relationship between Podesta, Noble & her art (& the code words, see below). when listening to other people/posters, they make it sound like the Podestas & Noble are very close & her art is hanging all over their home & Comet Pizza. I can't find any proof of that (maybe someone else can).

20:00 in & he has "relative certainty", @ this point, that the code words are for pedophilia because they are clearly not references to food bought in restaurants, drug use or national security. that is quite the leap IMHO. besides cheese pizza = child porn, this list originated on reddit & The Donald IIRC.

he also admits that all research is based on this code, & it would all fall apart without it, but never offers any proof of them being code words for pedos. he then jumps to his "huge breakthrough" being Brietbart's tweets about Podesta & pimping (that were obviously about ACORN project, not Pizzagate).

Breitbart confirms he was duped by O'Keefe and the ACORN pimp hoax
http://mediamatters.org/research/2010/03/02/breitbart-confirms-he-was-duped-by-okeefe-and-t/161084

growing more skeptical. agree with AA, starting to reek of disinformation & a good opp to smear the entire CT community during the 'fake news' push. IIRC, cases like the Pentagon, Franklin & Presidio scandals all had witnesses, reports filed, kids with signs of abuse, etc.

I've heard a rumor and am currently trying to verify it that the idiot who went and shot up the place was recently charged and in jail for running someone over. Hopefully I can find some info on this later

same guy (same name, age & hometown anyway)

Police ID driver of Harrison Road crash that seriously injured 13-year-old boy
http://www.salisburypost.com/2016/10/25/police-id-driver-harrison-road-crash-seriously-injured-13-year-old-boy/

[Masato]

Here is the link to the other 'Pedo in High Places' thread:

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=3432

Lots of info there. God, imagine it this leaks beyond the ability to contain it? wow
(still dreaming of the Deception cracking.. )

[Canuckster]

bumping for pizzagate

[Daglord]

Here is the link to the other 'Pedo in High Places' thread:

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=3432

Lots of info there. God, imagine it this leaks beyond the ability to contain it? wow
(still dreaming of the Deception cracking.. )

regardless if this is bullshit, it's another crack in the facade IMO. I've seen the Franklin coverup talked about more the last few days than I think I ever have & seeing something like this on the news makes the more inquisitive (like us here) dig deeper, even if for just shits & giggles. how could you NOT want to know what drove some dude to take a gun into a pizza joint?

for the record, I'm not shitting all over Pizzagate, just that it seems to be going the witch-hunt route instead of serious investigation. I'm trying to find fact from fiction. that interview with Seaman didn't restore much faith & he is supposedly the leading researcher right now from how I hear it. seems to be disingenuous @ times in how he presents it.

* I still have not seen any reference to the the code words being for child pedo besides that 4chan post after the fact. google searches for map, pasta, hot dog, etc, being pedo references before Pizzagate result in nothing for me (but I am admittedly half-assing this). I could absolutely be wrong about this & would love for someone to point it out to me so I can move on. it's kind of the backbone of the whole trafficking thing.

* Some emails sound REALLY FUCKED UP & some not so much IMO, without the code though...

* still haven't seen anything that links Kim Noble to the Podesta's. again, interested in seeing one if it exists. weird art (the Podesta's & the Bands that play @ Comet) apparently don't raise the flags to me that it does to most, not sure it that's a good thing or bad thing. I've been a part of the counter-culture & they are into some wild shit & call it art (if you saw some of my friend's bands flyers). people who claim to be Pagans, witches, etc, all trying to be different... but NOT Pedo shit & that's where Kim Noble comes in.

with that said, some of the art he has on his wall is very, very odd & I can see the pedo vibes from it. NAMBLA is real. but it's a far cry from some of the MK Ultra/Child rape/Noble stuff that is being associated with them @ the moment (which also leads to the handkerchiefs reference).

https://issuu.com/washingtonlife/docs/wl0615_inside_homes

* not buying the Pizzagate stuff (right now) is not denying the existence of child trafficking (& potentially through DC). just like not buying the SH hoax is not the equivalent of believing the official story. 'The Finders', Franklin, Presidio, Ted Gunderson & Monica Petersen are all great leads. the connections between people in DC & convicted pedos is nothing new. biggest proof there is that something like this goes on is the apologetic nature of influential people when it comes to their pedo friends (Polanski, Saville, Epstein for example).

I do think it will break someday & my money is on Hollywood. the only problem there is that I would guess 90% of that is made up of twinks looking to get roles, not so much trafficking as it is whoring themselves out. I am OK with anything adults want to do with their own bodies, it's only when it involves children or the NAP that it crosses the line. the fact that Berg's An Open Secret has come & gone so quietly is a bad sign. The Catholic church & Deliver Us From Evil as well. no one really cares about Feldman's claims anymore either. that is disturbing. why Pizzagate? why now? because of the election & the Trump/Hillary war? the "fake news" hysteria? something seems off to me.

that said, this could be it (but it's already being buried in bullshit)... or it could be the event that leads to further internet crackdown. I thought that would have been SH & was wrong.

sounds like all the work is now being done here after Reddit shut it down: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1467064

[Canuckster]

https://wikileaks.org/wiki/FBI-pedophile-symbols.pdf

Unsure if this document covers anything regarding pizzagate specifically, my phone is blocking me from downloading it, I'll get to it later when I get home

[Canuckster]

Henry makows breakdown

http://henrymakow.com/2016/12/pedophile ... t7wQa.dpuf

[Daglord]

David Icke talks about #Pizzagate, The Podesta Emails. John Podesta's 'art' collection, Marina Abramovic, Spiritcooking, Ted Heath, Jeffrey Epstein, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump, Prince Andrew, Jimmy Saville and more

[Masato]

^ watched.

I have been digging into this a bit more there is SO much shit to warrant an investigation its absurd. Even if there is a 1% chance of any of it being true (which I think there is much much more), we are talking CHILD ABUSE here. It should be investigated RIGHT A FUCKIN WAY.

I wish I had the time/focus to document all the most leading pieces of this puzzle, but I was swamped with work and just listening as I went, not taking notes or posting links.

2 things I especially found interesting, is that there were 2 figures named associated with Comet Ping Pong/Podesta/ and/or other businesses on that street (it seems to be a small area of colluding businesses) that are involved in CHILD PROTECTION groups, and another was some kind of law figure in charge of CASES OF CHILD TRAFFICKING/ABUSE etc.

Like I said I wish I took fuckin notes.

Anyways the point is that these 2 people are a) involved with the businesses in question AND b) involved with groups directly involved with supposedly protecting kids.

This seems like a huge coincidence. What better way to protect your own ass than to corner the agencies that would be in charge of getting you ratted out?

Lets find the details of these leads,
I shoulda fuckin made notes, lol