So Ariana Grande had a Concert in Manchester

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Re: So Ariana Grande had a Concert in Manchester

Postby Benwahwah » Sat May 27, 2017 4:49 pm

While I don't personally believe that this was a false flag operation, I think at this point it is ok to ask questions. Having said that, it seems ISIS has accepted responsibility for the attack. So unless there is any evidence to the contrary, I don't see any need to question the official narrative.

Also, for what it's worth. One of the teachers that I am working with is from Manchester and his daughter was at the gig. Thankfully for him she was absolutely fine.

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Postby robbstar » Sat May 27, 2017 7:11 pm

There has been a few reports that the lad in questions father was a MI6 operative. Directly linked to failed overthrows of Guadafi etc. The bombers family and the British government have ties.

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Postby Canuckster » Sun May 28, 2017 2:59 pm

not all muslims are bombers, but are all bombers muslim?
People say they all want the truth, but when they are confronted with a truth that disagrees with them, they balk at it as if it were an unwanted zombie apocalypse come to destroy civilization.

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Postby robbstar » Sun May 28, 2017 5:16 pm

It is kinda crazy the we the UK and the USA just concluded more arms sales to the suadis. The very people who's branch of Islam is responsible for the radicalisation. It's also crazy that we in the west systematically ignore our history and the things we have done around the globe to get us to where we are today.

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Postby Megaterio Llamas » Sun May 28, 2017 10:23 pm

A bit of background on the attacker and his cohorts.

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Postby Megaterio Llamas » Sun Jun 04, 2017 12:15 am

One more time it seems.


London Bridge attack: Terror incident leaves up to seven feared dead after van ploughs into pedestrians ‘before three men with hunting knives jump out and start stabbing people’

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3717339/l ... se-latest/
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Postby Megaterio Llamas » Sun Jun 04, 2017 1:32 am

You get used to simply marching into town, painting Nasrani on the houses and businesses of Christians in Iraq and Syria, confiscating them, beheading the men and old women and enslaving the girls in your harems all with Western funding and training and with broad Western government, media and public support and then you arrive back 'home' surrounded by 'uppity' Nasrani everywhere you look.

It must be incredibly frustrating for the young jihadi to deal with, hence he lashes out. It's quite easily understood.
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Postby Winnson » Sun Jun 04, 2017 10:50 am

Time to fire up those Twitter accounts and start virtue signalling again #NotAllMuslims

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Postby Masato » Sun Jun 04, 2017 4:10 pm

Theresa May:

Internet must be regulated now to prevent terrorism

http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/04/technol ... index.html

Prime Minister Theresa May has called for closer regulation of the internet following a deadly terror attack in London.

At least seven people were killed in a short but violent assault that unfolded late Saturday night in the heart of the capital, the third such attack to hit Britain this year.

May said on Sunday that a new approach to tackling extremism is required, including changes that would deny terrorists and extremist sympathizers digital tools used to communicate and plan attacks.

"We cannot allow this ideology the safe space it needs to breed," May said. "Yet that is precisely what the internet and the big companies that provide internet-based services provide."

"We need to work with allied democratic governments to reach international agreements that regulate cyberspace to prevent the spread of extremist and terrorism planning," she continued. "We need to do everything we can at home to reduce the risks of extremism online."

May's call for new internet regulations was part of a larger strategy to combat terror, including what she described as "far too much tolerance of extremism in our country."

It was not immediately clear how May would crack down on social media and internet firms, but she has long been an advocate of increased government surveillance powers.

Not everyone is convinced that additional restrictions would be effective.

Peter Neumann, a professor who studies political violence and radicalization at King's College in London, said that blaming social media is "politically convenient but intellectually lazy."

Neumann said that few people are radicalized exclusively online. And efforts by major social media firms to crack down on extremists accounts have pushed their conversations off public sites and onto encrypted messaging platforms.

"This has not solved problem, just made it different," he said on Twitter.

The attack comes as tech giants come under increased pressure in Europe over their policing of violent and hate speech.

Europe's top regulator released data last week that showed that Twitter has failed to take down a majority of hate speech posts after they had been flagged. Facebook and YouTube fared better, removing 66% of reported hate speech.

On Sunday, Twitter pointed to data that showed it suspended more than 375,000 accounts in the second half of 2016 for violations related to the promotion of terrorism.

In the U.K., a parliamentary committee report published last month alleged that social media firms have prioritized profit over user safety by continuing to host unlawful content. The report also called for "meaningful fines" if the companies do not quickly improve.

"The biggest and richest social media companies are shamefully far from taking sufficient action to tackle illegal and dangerous content," the report said. "Given their immense size, resources and global reach, it is completely irresponsible of them to fail to abide by the law."

Forty-eight people were injured in Saturday's attack on London Bridge and Borough Market. Police officers pursued and shot dead three attackers within eight minutes of the first emergency call, London police said.


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Postby Masato » Sun Jun 04, 2017 4:10 pm

^^ Problem, Reaction, Solution... ?


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