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Re: The Parenting Thread...

Postby Vutulaki » Fri Sep 01, 2017 4:24 am

Winnson wrote:
Vutulaki wrote:
Winnson wrote:
Well, many reasons I guess. Here's one:

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Do you want to compare cases of hetero couples molesting kids?

Lets think about this.

"The distinction between a victim's gender and a perpetrator's sexual orientation is important because many child molesters don't really have an adult sexual orientation. "


Using the fixated-regressed distinction, Groth and Birnbaum (1978) studied 175 adult males who were convicted in Massachusetts of sexual assault against a child. None of the men had an exclusively homosexual adult sexual orientation. 83 (47%) were classified as "fixated;" 70 others (40%) were classified as regressed adult heterosexuals; the remaining 22 (13%) were classified as regressed adult bisexuals.

http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html

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Vutu, what do you think makes children turn gay? Natural proclivity?


We simply do not know. I grew up with a guy who was a massive pussy hound, pulled plenty of tail and was the antithesis of a homosexual male in every sense. His older brother who I kinda counted as a friend too was camp as a row of tents.

Both raised in the same household, parents divorced and both decided to live primarily with their dad cause it meant they would be closer to friends/school and whatnot.

The gay older brother claimed his dad (who was a hetero pussy hound like my friend) turned him off women by over encouraging him to bang chics once he was in Snr HS.

There were no gay adults in the picture.

Thats not everyone's story im sure but I dont see how his sexuality can be attributed to how he was raised unless his reason stated above was correct. FTR my friends dad also encouraged him to bang chics in HS and he lapped it up. Biological brothers, almost looked like twins were it not for the age gap.

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Postby Ethan Allen » Fri Sep 01, 2017 3:04 pm

Masato wrote:wow, a lotta hardcore opinions being slung on this one!

Straight people/parents can be just as sexually deviant, or just as mentally ill IMO


True, but straight parents aren't necessarily mentally ill/deviant, Homosexuals are necessarily mentally ill/deviant.

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Postby Ethan Allen » Fri Sep 01, 2017 3:14 pm

Vutulaki wrote:
Ethan Allen wrote:Homosexuality is a mental illness and a deviant form of sexuality. It is reasonable to assume those who are already mentally ill and sexually deviant are at a greater risk of further deviancy i.e. pedo behavior.


We need not assume, Ive already provided the stats and submit that you are incorrect. Pedo behaviour presents itself among the hetero population at a higher frequency than all others (bi/tri/A-sexual/ robot fuckers etc etc)

Ethan Allen wrote:Vutu, your case is also different than a single person who wants to adopt. You were part of a nuclear family and tried to make it work, it just wasn't in the cards.


So single divorcees should be able to adopt? not that id want to, once again fuck looking after someone else's offspring if it can be helped.


A 40 year old study, with a sample size of 175, is hardly conclusive.

Single divorcees should not be able to adopt babies imo.

I'd be fine with a single parent adopting an older child though. As bad as single parenting is, it is likely an improvement over many, many group homes for kids.

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Postby Vutulaki » Fri Sep 01, 2017 3:25 pm

Ethan Allen wrote:
Vutulaki wrote:
Ethan Allen wrote:Homosexuality is a mental illness and a deviant form of sexuality. It is reasonable to assume those who are already mentally ill and sexually deviant are at a greater risk of further deviancy i.e. pedo behavior.


We need not assume, Ive already provided the stats and submit that you are incorrect. Pedo behaviour presents itself among the hetero population at a higher frequency than all others (bi/tri/A-sexual/ robot fuckers etc etc)

Ethan Allen wrote:Vutu, your case is also different than a single person who wants to adopt. You were part of a nuclear family and tried to make it work, it just wasn't in the cards.


So single divorcees should be able to adopt? not that id want to, once again fuck looking after someone else's offspring if it can be helped.


A 40 year old study, with a sample size of 175, is hardly conclusive.

Single divorcees should not be able to adopt babies imo.

I'd be fine with a single parent adopting an older child though. As bad as single parenting is, it is likely an improvement over many, many group homes for kids.


Got any conclusive studies which suggest that homosexuals are more likely to rape children?

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Postby Masato » Fri Sep 01, 2017 4:48 pm

I personally know someone from perhaps the most lovely traditional family I have ever known... good wholesome spanish catholic family, 4 kids, strong marriage between the mom and dad, warm, loving people if I ever met any.

Then in his late 30's the guy suddenly went full-on trans. No one saw it coming at all.

Who knows what makes this stuff work? He has 2 daughters & a wife, wife says she knew the whole time and supports it so there must be some kink goin on lol. Will be interesting to see, they still seem to value family and are good parents but time will tell how it all turns out

I think we are all confused to be honest in the west about sexuality, no matter what your preference. We can thank Media and Entertainment for a lot of this imo. Its a big confusing world and almost none of it relates to procreation, lol which is imo what sex is really all about.

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Postby Vutulaki » Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:42 pm

Media hasnt got shit to do with it, trannys have existed in large numbers in various cultures across south and south east asia, Oceania and elsewhere with little or no social stigma

Those cultures were surviving fine before the christian value of pointless guilt made landfall.

I tend to think guys who are anti gay have something to hide in many cases or in other words the majority of christian men are closet homos.

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Postby Masato » Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:03 pm

What I meant by blaming media is the way they hyper-sexualize everything, straight, gay, whatever. I've been subjected to a constant stream of over-sexualized imagery my whole life whether by TV, movies, magazine covers, even fuckin' Archie comics lol. There is nothing parents can do to sheild their kids from this, boys at least learn to see women as sex objects EARLY in age and it is reinforced constantly. Porn doesn't help, lol

I am not into any sort of guilting over the fact that we are sexual beings, but the older I get the more I think this amount of constant sexually-charged visual content is not really good for society.

Media never seems to associate sex with procreation or family, it is always pleasure and lust or some twisted comedic concoction, we've lost all sense of what it might actually be about. I totally blame media for this, even the pop music industry aimed at pre-teens is constantly urging all the kids to go out and have sex, give in to your inhibitions etc. Its a sickness on society but we all just take it for granted cuz its become normalized.

Now media is clearly pushing and celebrating all the sexual deviance you can imagine, trans people propped up as great heroes and sluts being idolized as stars. I can tell you right now as a parent this stuff is getting through, the kids all make jokes about assuming gender and are thinking they can shape their sexuality however they think might be coolest or trendy

scary stuff imo

I always wondered how many natural gays or trans people etc exist within cultures where nothing of the sort exists in their reality (Amish people for example). Is the whole concept of sexual orientation nature vs nurture, etc? Likely a bit of both I would assume... -which brings us back to the parenting issue

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Postby Megaterio Llamas » Sat Sep 02, 2017 10:47 am

I knew a hippy back in the sixties who sired a large brood of kids and then joined a cult of degenerates under the tutelage of a weirdo who called himself Baba Free Frank where he followed his passion and became an astrologer, even went on to host a bizarre astrology program on the public access channel in Nelson BC. He was a decent grower but a lousy businessman who smoked up and gave away half his crop. Kids never had enough to eat. Changed his name from Doug to Ephraim and became a raging homo and quite a deviant one. These freaks actually passed their kids around for sex. Doug/Ephraim's kids ended up in the foster care of a school friend of mine's family. I always knew this guy was a little light in the loafers but I sure didn't see all of that coming. His son actually turned out surprisingly normal with just a few drug problems that he eventually got over and is raising a family of his own today. The nightmare childhood that kid endured is hard to describe. It is a testament to the human spirit that he turned out relatively okay.


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Postby Shinkicker » Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:28 pm

So....my son has a friend, female (his gf's bff) who is having her 15th bday party in 2 weeks. We received an invitation in the mail that looked fancier than a recent wedding invitation from a friend. It's to be held at a posh establishment. He needs a tuxedo for the event. And I'm to take him to a "rehearsal" for some kind of something they are going to play out at this party.

I guess I'll play along and rent the fucking tuxedo.

Grrrrr.....

Even if I had that kind of money, I wouldn't go all out like this for a 15th bday. I can't imagine what her sweet 16 bday will be like.


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