Unsolved Mysterious Murders Involving Cryptographic Writing
Unsolved Mysterious Murders Involving Cryptographic Writing
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Luigi wrote:Tamam Shud case update: The granddaughter of the nurse reveals that she thinks her grandmother had an affair with the somerton man then was involved in his murder. She is calling for the body to be exhumed to do a genetic test. Here is a video on it by 60 minutes:
http://progressive.netshow.ninemsn.com. ... filiateId=
Another Tamam Shud update:
It took 7 years but they finally got thru all the red tape and exhumed the body to do a DNA test. Its apparently complicated by the embalming fluid which destroys DNA. As for the code, over the years people basically eliminated every possibility 1 by 1 and we basically know he was using it as a memory aid with each letter representing an English word. Perhaps poems he was trying to memorize, perhaps just the horses he had bet on.
https://www.9news.com.au/national/bones ... 3b3c499f6b
The DNA results could be done in 2 months or as long as 2 years, apparently.
Update: After 51 years the 2nd Zodiak cypher was decyphered by 3 citizens, who wrote a computer program specifically designed to crack it and using a careful eye and good intuition:
The plaintext is pretty much just the same taunts from the first cypher, not all that surprising.
Its crazy to think though that the only reason Zodiak was never caught was simply because his crimes were completely devoid of sexuality so he left zero DNA evidence, which has basically identified every serial killer from the 60s onward.
The plaintext is pretty much just the same taunts from the first cypher, not all that surprising.
Its crazy to think though that the only reason Zodiak was never caught was simply because his crimes were completely devoid of sexuality so he left zero DNA evidence, which has basically identified every serial killer from the 60s onward.
Update: After 74 years, the Somerton Man has been identified as Carl "Charles" Webb. He was identified through genetic genealogy, the same technique used to find killers and rapists where they use partial DNA to reconstruct your family tree. Webb was an Australian electrical engineer and toolmaker and the youngest of 6 children. The "T Keane" named on his clothing in the suitcase was his brother-in-law Thomas Gerald Keane who probably gave him the clothes as hand me downs. Webb was known to enjoy poetry and betting on horse races, which explains the Rubayat and code which in all likelihood was a memory aid for which horses he had bet on. His older brother Roy served in WW2, he fought in Malaysia where he was taken captive by the Japanese, and died while a prisoner of war. The last record we have of Webb was April 1947, when his wife Dorothy "Doff" Webb(nee Robertson) reported to the courts that he had vanished and she wanted a divorce. After this she moved to the province where Webb was found dead on the beach, so perhaps he was there to track her down.
Looking at this case with this info when we know it was no weird cold war spy weird shit, it seems pretty easy to logically explain what could have happened. For example perhaps this guy had a gambling problem, was unhappy in his marriage, and skipped town rather than confess his debt. A year and a half later he is at a point where he wants his wife back, goes looking for her, and either gives up or is rejected by her, at which point he ingested poison to commit suicide, and went to lay on the beach for one final cigarette. It perfectly explains why "The End" in Middle Persian from the poetry book was sewn into his pants, it was his own clever suicide note.
Charles and his wife never had any kids, and the living relatives are too young to have known him. None of them have photos of him either. Though there are photos of his brother who does bear a resemblance to the Somerton Man.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-26/ ... /101272182
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-02/ ... /101293788
Hopefully in 2023 we get an answer to the Isdal woman case and this whole thread will be solved, though I think thats a long shot.
Looking at this case with this info when we know it was no weird cold war spy weird shit, it seems pretty easy to logically explain what could have happened. For example perhaps this guy had a gambling problem, was unhappy in his marriage, and skipped town rather than confess his debt. A year and a half later he is at a point where he wants his wife back, goes looking for her, and either gives up or is rejected by her, at which point he ingested poison to commit suicide, and went to lay on the beach for one final cigarette. It perfectly explains why "The End" in Middle Persian from the poetry book was sewn into his pants, it was his own clever suicide note.
Charles and his wife never had any kids, and the living relatives are too young to have known him. None of them have photos of him either. Though there are photos of his brother who does bear a resemblance to the Somerton Man.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-26/ ... /101272182
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-02/ ... /101293788
Hopefully in 2023 we get an answer to the Isdal woman case and this whole thread will be solved, though I think thats a long shot.
^Actually I just checked for updates on the Isdal woman case and the case has gotten huge attention since I made this thread and they analysed her DNA enough to determine she was ethnically European. The Norwegian police havent committed to putting her DNA into a commercial database, the tactic that solves absolutely every cold case basically, citing possible legal and ethical concerns, however they did announce recently that doing so at least wouldnt seem to break any Norwegian laws.
Basically as long as there is continued interest putting pressure on them to use this technique they will eventually relent within the next 9 years and we will have our answer. For now though there is a fair bit of evidence suggesting she was a Mossad agent, likely a courier for info from compromised top Norwegian officials and the Israelis hushed up the investigation. Its within only a few years of the Lillehammer terrorist stuff, AND the U.S.S. Liberty attack where Israel flexed its influence on America in the same way.
Basically as long as there is continued interest putting pressure on them to use this technique they will eventually relent within the next 9 years and we will have our answer. For now though there is a fair bit of evidence suggesting she was a Mossad agent, likely a courier for info from compromised top Norwegian officials and the Israelis hushed up the investigation. Its within only a few years of the Lillehammer terrorist stuff, AND the U.S.S. Liberty attack where Israel flexed its influence on America in the same way.
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Speaking of genetic genealogy, I want to know who the unidentified dna on Jon Benet Ramsey belongs to!
9 years later, we get all the answers:
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