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Postby Masato » Thu Sep 19, 2024 3:57 pm

Next stop was VENICE.

I have an Italian friend who gave me some great advice; DO NOT book a place in the actual historic Venice. Getting your luggage there is a nightmare. He was right, lol it was HOT and we saw lots of tourists dragging masses of luggage over bridges and stairs etc trying to use their GPS to find the hotel among the labyrinth of streets and canals. lol it was comic.

My friend suggested to book just outside the historic sits close to the train station, so that's what we did.
5 minute walk to the train station, and there was a line that took us right into the heart of the old part, luggage free :D

As Indiana Jones says; "Ah, Venice!"

It is pretty cool. I was honestly expecting to be all gross and touristy but it was actually pretty spectacular, it really is as pretty as they make it out to be.

I gotta go, I'll post pics later

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Postby Masato » Thu Sep 19, 2024 5:59 pm

Getting out of the train station in historic Venice:

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It's 4 realz, lol;

(we did not go for a boat ride, too expensive. No loss imo you could see lots from bridges and streets)
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Adriatic Sea:
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Sad story about this bridge. Apparently there is a prison on the other side, and it was legend that if you were a prisoner/criminal, this bridge would be the last thing you would ever see of the outside world. They would imprison lots of people and kids for life apparently here.
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After the sun started going down it changed into something quite different, magical.
You can totally get lost in there though, lol everyone (including us) trying to find their way back to the train station in the dark was jokes :D

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Postby Masato » Thu Sep 19, 2024 6:11 pm

Next stop was GENOA.

I wouldn't recommend it if you are looking for a leisurely vacation. Traffic was nuts, very chaotic and stressful. (Parking at the places we rented were always headaches in any of the cities)

It's just a big city by the port. Pretty grubby/not particularly beautiful, but if you judge it as so it's interesting to see I guess. Had a lively port/waterfront where people were hanging out, busking etc.

I would have happily stayed another night in the alps or Venice again instead. But we made the best of it, and explored quite a bit/found some cool spots. There are lots of old city stuff scattered all around. It's pretty weird to see actually, you just have to trek all over the city to find em.

View from the AirBNB we rented:
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Genoa:
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view from the rental at night:
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Postby Masato » Thu Sep 19, 2024 6:33 pm

Next stop FLORENCE.

I didn't know but a lot of the English names for cities in Italy are super different than in Italian. Here they called it Firenze, I did not know that. Milan/Milano or Venice/Venezia are pretty close, but I think Florence & Firenze are really different. Anyways lol

They called Florence the 'Capital of Art', supposedly Michelangelo and all the great artists would come to get inspired etc. I had a similar inspiration here to be honest, there is spectacular artwork everywhere you look, from architecture to paintings to scultures, or combinations of all 3. It's absolutely covered with it.

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We climbed up the steps of this tower to the top. Was rad:

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These are the crazy stairways up to the roof. Reminded me of inside the pyramids
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This is an Octagonal structure that is still in mystery. It is older than everything in the city but no one knows for sure how old or who built it. It looks brand new, honestly. I was tripping on some of that Millenial Prophecy theory just for fun lol, things look different sometimes ;)
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There are a billion paintings all over of Jesus, in all the typical parables. But this one I found was rare, I'm guessing it's a portrait Jesus perhaps as a child?
There are almost no images of the figure of Jesus after his birth until 33 years of age.
If I'm right, this is a great piece. Weird composition, almost looks cryptic.

I tripped out a lot on the art and symbols all over, but I'll save those ramblings for other threads lol
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The real 'David' by one of the Ninja Turtles, supposedly:
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Rooms and rooms of 'sketches' by great sculptors:
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DaVinci on his deathbed:
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Walking around/typical streets:
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You could order a single glass of wine through windows like this, if you find one;
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Postby Masato » Thu Sep 19, 2024 6:43 pm

Next day we made another mistake, but not as fortunate this time as the Austria mistake, lol

My wife wanted to see a place called SAN GIMIGNANO, a cool medieval town.

Instead we typed in on the GPS: San GEMignano.
One letter different.

It ended up taking us over 1.5 hours in the completely wrong direction, into some back roads in Tuscany.
The locals laughed at us lol, saying lots of people make the same mistake. I think they enjoy it :D
I didn't mind it though cuz the roads were fun to drive.
We drove the 1.5 hours back again, and then started to the correctly spelled San GIMignano lol

The wrong San GEMignano:
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The right San GIMignano :D:
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Postby Masato » Thu Sep 19, 2024 6:53 pm

Next was SIENA, where we had 1 night booked.

Here is where they have this famous HORSE RACE that goes through the town. Apparently there are no rules and it's a brutal spectacle. The race has just occurred a few weeks prior to our arrival, so the winning club (horse? team?)'s flag was still all over the place, we saw a private street was closed off for the night for people of that winning club or whatever still celebrating.
We saw a lot of photography of the events, it looks crazy. I would come back here again to see that man.

This was for sure a favourite spot. The nightlife was GREAT, lots of kids and teens all about having civilized fun. So safe, so peaceful, a great place to see imo especially at night

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This is the square that the horses apparently race in. Maybe I'll start another thread and look for some videos.
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this was the private party for the members of whatever club or team won the horse race. There are like 12 different flags or 'houses' or something that compete. This flag won. They were pretty amped about it lol.
I was not invited to the party, this is an unsolicited zoom in with my old iphone :D
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Postby Masato » Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:02 pm

Next day we drove through another little medieval town called SPELLO.

It's like the others but with more flowers :D

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Postby Masato » Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:20 pm

Next was ROME.

We booked 2 nights here so we could have 1 full day to check things out, we were told there is tons to see. They are right, lol
You could spend years in this city if you were really into Roman history.

Our Hotel was in a sem-shitty neighborhood. It got pretty scummy after dark. I got stopped and frisked by 2 cops a few blocks from here at night. Rome is an amazing city but I can't say it's pretty nor pleasant. It's quite filthy and riddled with homeless/helpless foreigners who don't speak Italian with nowhere to go.
In the historic places it's all tourists everywhere. We were low season but it was still pretty full. I imagine high season it could be really nuts.

Anyways the history and scale of amazing architecture and art is undeniable. But I don't care much for the cities, driving around and parking and getting lost in swarms of people and getting harrassed every 3 minutes by some non-italian bum trying to sell you crap was not my favourite kind of setting. So we dug in and packed a huge day of walking in. Great day but I;m not likely to go back

We walked around a bit the first night
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There are EGYPTIAN OBELISKS all over Rome. Like real ones, with the heiroglyphs in them and everything. This was one I saw early on, then I would see them everywhere. We had 1 tour guide that didn't really have an answer for them.
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Millennial Kingdom Theory deserves at least a moment of consideration, lol:
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Colosseum
This thing was HUGE:
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Postby Masato » Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:43 pm

VATICAN:
For me the Vatican is a very polarizing enigma. Was very interesting to see it for myself.
I have a lot of new ideas about it all.
It is a very strange, strange, place on multiple levels.

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The MUSES.
As a person compelled to create certain things, like any artist, I often wonder about 'muses' & where it comes from, and if something like this may be real.
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Look at this craziness:
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This is all FLAT/PAINTED. There is a huge long hallway that is all like this. As an illustrator I noticed it and marvelled at how well its done, because if you don't look real hard you would think for sure it;s all carved/3D
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FLAT/PAINTED. It is an ILLUSION:
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DRAGONS EVERYWHERE!
I saw this and remembered it from some old conspiracy movies, but as I started looking more, I could see TONS of dragon symbols ALL OVER THE PLACE. Everywhere, once you start looking for it there are literally maybe hundreds of them, centered in important crests and doorways etc.
I asked our tour guide about it, she said it was the symbol of one of the important families that was Pope for a time, and that was all. She didn't seem to find it odd whatsoever.
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Look in the red parts, in the center of that 4-sided shape. This was a tricky one to find, most were way more obvious. But you get the point, all you have to do is start looking for dragons and they are literally all over the Vatican. I only took pics of a few there were so many
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The Sistine Chapel with Michelangelo's ceiling was banned from taking pictures, it was a 'holy' place, no one could talk or use their phones etc. So no photos.
But quite honestly, other than the myth of Michelangelo himself being the painter, I didn't find it much more impressive than a ton of other amazing ceilings etc within the Vatican, and through other places I saw throughout Italy.
Many times you;d go into a less-famous basilica and see SPECTACULAR artwork in there, but people pass on by because they are not famous.
Things like this in the Vatican were not significantly less impressive imo;
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Supposedly the Pope walks down these steps to make his show or whatever the fuck he thinks he's doing.
I didn't know this was still a 'no photo' zone, and was warned but was not made to delete it, so it's a rare photo, I suppose lol
The place is just amazing & surreal.
And I only got to see the tourist parts. There is literally a whole city behind it that answers to no governments or law
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ST PETERS BASILICA is the granddaddy of all Basilicas in Italy. There are tons of HUGE domes and shurches all over Italy, but St Peter's just fucking crushes them. It is massive, perfect, and unfathomably beautiful.
Honestly I still have a lot of difficulty how humans in the past as we are told could have ever built such things. It looks like the work of angels.

These pics do not convey the scale of it but whatevr;

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CHRIST and his angels:
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The biggest of the many OBELISKS all over Rome:
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ST PETERS & the OBELISK from down the street/outside vatican borders:
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More authentic Obelisks in all the piazzas;
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Parthenon:
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Rome is amazing but I likely won't go back. Too crazy for my tastes. But worth seeing I think.
I was glad to get out, lol

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Postby Masato » Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:58 pm

Next was NAPOLI (NAPLES)

Naples was the worst of all the places if I had to pick 1, it's kind of busted up and not much there from a touristy pov.
It began to grow on me though, especially as the nightlife started, but it's kinda hurting I think relatively speaking

They seemd to take no pride in their historical monuments, all the old churches etc were either abandoned or graffitid to hell, dirty, just not taken care of. I sensed no cultural pride in it like other places and thought it odd. Basically they let the whole city just kind of go to shit. There is trash everywhere, no one obeys the rules of the road lol it's just a living chaos. Which is kind of cool it its own way, and bet lots of people love it. But not a tourist stop imo unless we missed some things.

But Mrs Masato is a trooper and wanted to go check it out anyways so we did lol

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Kids playing soccer:
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You could see MOUNT VESUVIUS from the port
(the volcano that covered Pompeii. We went to Pompeii the next day but I didn't take any pictures)
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