Trudeau Urges Total 'Anti-Terror' Powers

[Masato]

Hey all... this is so alarming I can't even begin to fathom how many aspects of life it has the potential to affect.

Listen to the wording... they are talking not just about terrorists, or even random violent acts, but of PEOPLE "who condone terrorist attacks on the web, and how low the threshold should be for when security officials and police have “reasonable grounds” to act on suspicions someone might commit a terrorist act."

This is the beginnings of thought-police, where the government can round you up any time they want simply for disagreeing with them.


Liberal leader Justin Trudeau has signalled his party may support the Conservative government’s forthcoming security legislation.

Trudeau indicated Wednesday after a caucus meeting that he accepts the RCMP’s statements that recent attacks were “acts of terrorism,” despite Official Opposition NDP leader Tom Mulcair saying he is not sure last week’s shooting attack in Ottawa was terrorism.

Later, Trudeau urged Prime Minister Stephen Harper to create an all-party national security oversight committee to keep track of how security is beefed up. “Keeping Canadians safe in a way consistent with Canadian values is one of our highest responsibilities,” Trudeau told the House of Commons.

“In order to do that, we must ensure both the security of Canadians and the protection of their rights.”

Mulcair, meanwhile, said he was not yet persuaded that last week’s attacks by a lone gunman stem from terrorism.
Mulcair told reporters “I don’t think we have enough evidence to use that word.”

“When you look at the history of the individual involved, you see a criminal act, of course,” he added. “But … I think that we’re not in the presence of a terrorist act in the sense that we would understand it.”

In the Commons, Mulcair asked Harper if he understands “the fundamental difference between the horrific acts of a profoundly disturbed individual and organized terror.” He said the opposition parties should be invited to help prepare the “best legislative reaction to these horrific events.”

The prime minister said there is no “contradiction” to people having financial or mental “difficulties” and also being engaged in “terrorist Jihadist activities.”

“We do not think it helps Canadians to do anything but address these matters head-on, face them for what they are,” said Harper.

The leaders’ statements came exactly one week after Cpl. Nathan Cirillo died at the hands of gunman Michael Zehaf-Bibeau at the National War Memorial. Zehaf-Bibeau then rushed into the Centre Block, where he was killed by security.

Two days earlier, another soldier was killed by a hit-and-run driver in Quebec.

The Conservative government says it will introduce new legislation to give security officials and police enhanced powers to detain people believed to be potential terrorists.

It is considering how to deal with people who condone terrorist attacks on the web, and how low the threshold should be for when security officials and police have “reasonable grounds” to act on suspicions someone might commit a terrorist act.

Justice Minister Peter MacKay said he believes there is “no question” that “radicalization” is occurring because of what people see on the web and that it is leading to the “poisoning of young minds.”

Political observers have questioned whether next year’s federal election could feature terrorism and security as hot issues that drive a wedge between the Conservatives and Liberals.

But on Wednesday, Trudeau said, “The RCMP was clear. These were acts of terrorism.

“Our first preoccupation is: Right now, what are the measures that need to be put into place to make sure that we’re effectively keeping Canadians safe?”

He suggested the government and parliamentarians can find the “proper balance” between security and civil liberties and Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

“It’s not a challenge unique to Canada. It’s certainly one that western democracies are facing. And I know that it is possible to do them both.”


VIDEO in the link:

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/10/30 ... -urges-pm/

[Masato]

Read the tone of these articles... the focus is on INTERNET ACTIVITY

'Suspicious' "...websites or Internet posts that support the “proliferation of terrorism” in Canada."

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/pol ... e21377070/

Slippery slope, y'all

The beginnings of thought-police

:shock:

[Luigi]

I guess the apple doesnt fall far from the tree(referring to both the disagreeable policies of his father, and the fact that the U.K. already does this).

[Masato]

I was just discussing this with someone who knows a lot about history etc...

I always blame Trudeau for selling out the Bank of Canada... from what I've learned, before Trudeau most of Canadian currency was created by the Bank of Canada, interest-free, and circulated into the country. But Trudeau changed things so that the government would start BORROWING money from the banking families instead, at interest. Now only a small % of our money is sovereignly printed.

To me this is the worst of crimes, and this is a big reason I think Trudeau should be feared.

However my friend told me that at that time in history, the same policy was going on in lots of places in the world... that it wasn't just Trudeau and some isolated canadian incident, but was a widespread change in global banking policies and that Canada was just swept up in it along with other countries.

He said Trudeau was actually not so bad as far as PMs go, and that he was powerless to stop it and he shouldn't be blamed for it.

I still think the Trudeau name is aristocracy and shouldn't be trusted, but it is an interesting spin on the Bank of Canada tale. Would be interesting to dig deeper on this one, find out more of wtf happened there.

[greenseed]

he gives off the slimey shill company man vibe. i'll probably begrudgingly vote for mulcair or the greeeeeeeen party. liz may seems to be the most rational of the party leaders. only one to condemn israeli violence on gaza as far as i know. theyre all a pawn in the system though. they have to play dirty to win. Harpoon tested + for robocalls & hgh with barely a shrug.

[Luigi]

I wish more people would stray from the 2 big parties. I always thought the Indigenous Canadian party would steer us in the right direction.

[Canuckster]

one of my fathers very best friends was the campaign manager for mr pierre trudeau. His name was Jack Price and was wholly responsible for the campaign that got that man elected. He used to babysit Mr Justin When he was a baby while his dad and mom were out on the campaign trail.


fuck that little cunt.

He never even had the decency to show up at Mr Prices funeral last year, who ended up dying penniless due to his philanthropy and caring for other people more than himself.

[Canuckster]

he isnt doing well in the polls from what ive heard anyways, but I doubt that will matter much.