The Sandy Hook Investigations

[Canuckster]

Woopsie, double post.

[Daglord]

Fyi presstv is Iranian and they trash jews on the reg, easy to dismiss due to that.

I was not aware of that. thanks for the heads up.

[Daglord]

Finished All Dat.

Daglord this has opened my eyes; - I know now what you refer to re; Halbig and Fetzer. Lots of red flags. It is not impossible however imo that Halbig is just kind of dumb, trying to do good and make a buck at the same time, got caught in a schtick and wasn't smart enough to get out. Not saying this is so but possible, he looks a bit wacky to me, lol Fetzer I d/k as much about yet.

I understand now what you mean by "SH was not a 'hoax'"... but it seems rather an attempt to mask and cover up a true event. I do believe a lot of the parents are fake (actors)... it is my suspicion that they were featured as damage control, to create a fake story because the real one is just way too big for people to understand (gv't pov). This is my suspicion at this point, at least. Were they brought in to play the part of real parents, whom we perhaps never got to see? Rosen, the school nurse, Parker, etc - all clearly bullshit testimonies. How is this?

We only heard from a small handful of these tear-less parents... yet hundreds of kids were supposed to be at the school that day.

Certain fundraiser webpages set up ahead of time (or very very quickly) is still suspect though imo, as is the money that was already pouring in ahead of time, and the crisis actor practise going on, the police chief saying he had warnings, etc.

I'm going through the Spingola vid now... they seem to be covering those questions from Halbig etc quite well. Indeed a lot of focus on trivial things while the big questions are getting away.

SH is absolutely fascinating - a real live mystery... and not some dead one from the past like the pyramids or something... this is NOW, with people CURRENTLY ALIVE AND IN OFFICE who know the truth.

Can't indy journalists get to SH/Newtown and start interviewing people? Why has this not been done? Its like we're all investigating from the outside, there must be plenty of people to question.

Will keep going through your links Daglord, then let's discuss.

All in all still totally confused, lol

cool man. thanks for watching. seriously. I sometimes wonder if anyone over @ EY that piles on has even watched something like it. a lot of that stuff has been forgotten. flushed down the memory hole.

yeah, could very well be that about wolf. it's just so weird. he can't possibly think that is a script though can he? & if he really does, who were the "2 CT state troopers who gave it to him in confidence"?? shady as fuck. then I think about james tracy's memory hole blog about people approaching him to spearhead the hoax movement with ridiculous crisis actor matches & how they moved on to wolf when he declined. its all very odd. like you said, maybe caught up in something & not able to get out. I still stand by his resume & "experience" being bullshit. take a hard look.

I've thought about that theory a few times. maybe brought in someone who could be the 'face' of the parents, someone who could handle media scrutiny, hold up well, etc. make sure word never gets out. can't wrap my head around that one though yet. I still don't dismiss the possibility that we are just seeing interviews which consist of maybe an hour or two of their 24 hour day & they can prepare & hold up for that little amount of time & we don't see how they mourn behind closed doors. its really not that odd for people to laugh when in mourning, I've seen @ funerals. one minute laughing, crying the next. but some of the parents do seem really unaffected by what supposedly transpired. like really unaffected.

it is my suspicion that they were featured as damage control, to create a fake story because the real one is just way too big for people to understand (gv't pov). This is my suspicion at this point, at least. Were they brought in to play the part of real parents, whom we perhaps never got to see? Rosen, the school nurse, Parker, etc - all clearly bullshit testimonies. How is this?

yes. that^ is a great suspicion. absolutely fantastic. & logical. maybe something so bad, we of course would never hear about it under the guise of national security or controlling the herd. exactly like you said, something so big we wouldn't be expected to be able to understand. I had never caught that speech you quoted. wow.

I don't really know much about the web pages. I know that a few of them were already existing pages that were previously something different & were changed after SH. I was told that would explain the earlier creation date. never really bothered to look much more into it.

brendan hunt (respect) & sofia smallstorm have both been to newtown. they didn't ask for money or cause a big scene when they got there so you didn't hear about it unless you were looking for it. not sure of any interviews, but hunt got some footage of the school before it was torn down.

spingola can be tough to listen to, but man she went after wolf. great listen. & the 'where did wolfgang' go was also a good one. there are a few others. I have a couple GREAT debates, jack blood vs. jim fetzer & keith johnson vs. wolf. I'll drop them here if you are interested. fetzer has got to be something more imo. guy was also a 'no plane theory' pusher & still pushes it hard today. he has way too much education (if it's legit, which I think it is) to believe in the stuff he is selling. imo anyway. also, after I dismantled his 'iconic fake photo article', someone went back & took all that stuff out with no retraction. irresponsible. lol. I'll drop the debate of him vs. blood here for sure because jack blood DOES NOT believe the official story. he is more along our line of thinking. cool guy. it is also over @ EY in one of those threads.

see what I mean about halbig's 16 questions??

[Masato]

LOL @ the grammar of Halbig's questions.... they are absolutely atrocious run-on sentences, every time Spingola tries to read one she gets completely tongue-tied lol

I think Spingola has gone too far the other way; at the very end the dude claims to have 'solved Sandy Hook', and they go on about how simple it is and how easy it is to answer Halbig's questions etc, as the official story is basically correct and all the hooplah is just internet nonsense and disinfo.

Halbig's questions perhaps... good for them to clean up the junk, but way still too many oddities left that cannot really be explained so easily. The truth is somewhere in the middle I really believe.

The biggest danger in all of this imo is over-confidence in one's assertions. Its still just too fucking murky. But with time I think things are beginning to surface or sink. I really hope so anyways.

Halbig is either conscious of, or being used to carry the opposition imo. Quite scary actually

[Canuckster]

bingo

and they go on about how simple it is and how easy it is to answer Halbig's questions etc, as the official story is basically correct and all the hooplah is just internet nonsense and disinfo.

[Masato]

Some of his questions are kind of simple to answer though, I must admit. Spingola ruined his list of questions something fierce.

Halbig holds his own pretty well though under attack. That other interview Daglord posted was Spingola-esque, bitch trying to expose Halbig from the start. Halbig kicks her ass, he has done way more homework than she did.

I think Halbig is a courageous but slightly misguided fool. I also think its possible he's being supported somehow because they know he's barking up the wrong tree and will likely fuck up somewhere or get caught for stealing donation $$ lol. But, as EY says, he's the only one actually trying to DO something about it instead of just yakking about it on the internet.

[Daglord]

Some of his questions are kind of simple to answer though, I must admit. Spingola ruined his list of questions something fierce.

Halbig holds his own pretty well though under attack. That other interview Daglord posted was Spingola-esque, bitch trying to expose Halbig from the start. Halbig kicks her ass, he has done way more homework than she did.

I think Halbig is a courageous but slightly misguided fool. I also think its possible he's being supported somehow because they know he's barking up the wrong tree and will likely fuck up somewhere or get caught for stealing donation $$ lol. But, as EY says, he's the only one actually trying to DO something about it instead of just yakking about it on the internet.

hmm. I didn't get that @ all from the truth paradigm interview. may have to listen again. that's why it's good to have someone else listen & offer their thoughts. the only thing that really stuck out to me was his ignorance once again regarding the 'script', fetzer's "agenda" & his inability to get ANYTHING done with 2 years & $50K in donations. I have to respectfully disagree with ya on halbig "actually trying to do something". I just don't see it. his contribution to SH has more hurt than helped imo.

I found it very odd though that he brought up the man in the woods or the crime scene @ the lanza house in that interview w/o anyone else mentioning it. his "everyone who is looking @ the man in the woods or yoganda is looking in the wrong direction" statement out of nowhere & then dismissing it all by putting in all back on the hoax talk was "fishy". almost like his "don't bother to read the official report" nonsense.

[Canuckster]

To be fair, 50 k is fuck all for money,

[Daglord]

To be fair, 50 k is fuck all for money,

50K is a pretty significant amount of money in the courts. MORE than enough to get the ball rolling.

what has he accomplished so far? anything?

[Megaterio Llamas]

Missed this story. Seems mighty contentious, lots of passion. Dag vs Dag even.

You hate to see that.