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holocaust deniers book club

Postby Vutulaki-san » Sat Dec 19, 2015 7:27 pm

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Postby Canuckster » Sun Dec 20, 2015 12:03 pm

my kinda book
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Postby Masato » Sun Dec 20, 2015 7:16 pm

I always wondered what the truth is about the legality of writing on that topic.

I have heard several documentaries where it is claimed that writing or even speaking about the question of the holocaust as the Nuremburg Trials told us is illegal. I hear that Irving fellow (?) was even arrested in Canada on these sort of charges.

I put a page in my book about it. No one has come after me yet :)

Then again I only sold 3 copies.
Irving musta sold at least 10

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Postby Canuckster » Sun Dec 20, 2015 7:59 pm

The fact that you can be arrested for expressing an opinion is crazy.
People say they all want the truth, but when they are confronted with a truth that disagrees with them, they balk at it as if it were an unwanted zombie apocalypse come to destroy civilization.

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Postby Vutulaki-san » Sun Dec 20, 2015 10:08 pm

Yes one would have thought they would invite the deniers to present their evidence so they can address the evidence if there was nothing to hide.

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Postby Turanian Trashtalker » Sun Dec 20, 2015 10:43 pm

I believe the holocaust is real.

this sets me apart from the vast majority of CT retards. hitler spoke forever about how he wanted to exterminate jewry. it takes months to set up a concentration camp apparatus, especially if you have an infinite supply of cheap labor.

the germans were, and still are today one of the most efficient and organized people who have ever existed. they are born killing machines. if anybody on earth can organize a holocaust, it is them.

you can be anti-semitic without denying some very obvious historical facts... every country from Germany to Russia kept accurate census records of their population up until WWII, including jews. 5-7 million jewish deaths sounds accurate. Where did they all disappear during the war?

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Postby Som-Pong » Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:42 pm

The Jews obviously went back t Svartalfhem, to plot the rise of Miley Cyrus.

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Postby Vutulaki-san » Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:37 am

Turanian Trashtalker wrote:I believe the holocaust is real.

this sets me apart from the vast majority of CT retards. hitler spoke forever about how he wanted to exterminate jewry. it takes months to set up a concentration camp apparatus, especially if you have an infinite supply of cheap labor.

the germans were, and still are today one of the most efficient and organized people who have ever existed. they are born killing machines. if anybody on earth can organize a holocaust, it is them.

you can be anti-semitic without denying some very obvious historical facts... every country from Germany to Russia kept accurate census records of their population up until WWII, including jews. 5-7 million jewish deaths sounds accurate. Where did they all disappear during the war?


If the krauts actually killed 5-7m jews while waging war against the rest of the west on six front across the globe (well half of it) I want to know how.

80mio people both military and civilian died during WW2, youre telling me 10% of them were in the concentration camps? wow

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Postby Masato » Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:40 am

Turanian Trashtalker wrote:I believe the holocaust is real.

this sets me apart from the vast majority of CT retards. hitler spoke forever about how he wanted to exterminate jewry. it takes months to set up a concentration camp apparatus, especially if you have an infinite supply of cheap labor.

the germans were, and still are today one of the most efficient and organized people who have ever existed. they are born killing machines. if anybody on earth can organize a holocaust, it is them.

you can be anti-semitic without denying some very obvious historical facts... every country from Germany to Russia kept accurate census records of their population up until WWII, including jews. 5-7 million jewish deaths sounds accurate. Where did they all disappear during the war?



Great post

I am finding that the term 'holocaust denial' is becoming synonymous with any sort of questioning of the 'official' WWII narrative... which is dangerous because they can be very different.

I also believe there is little doubt that jews were persecuted and killed and kept/died in concentration camps. As TT points out there is no shortage of direct evidence of this, even lots of words directly from Hitler's mouth about cleaning them out.

What I find suspect is the intense focus and propaganda regarding it ever since, vs the complete wash-over of the allied crimes which were really just as nasty in every way and more. Stalin's Gulags were likely far more horrific, the numbers of innocent German peoples slaughtered during and even after the war were also epic in number and could be classed as a holocaust in its own right. I just watched a documentary about General Eisenhower's POST-war death camps for German prisoners where he basically let them all die. Then you get the Dresdin Bombings, and the nukes on Japan etc... but no, no, no... those were all nothing compared to what those evil Nazis did, right?
Also lots of other holocausts in human history that are forgotten... why the INTENSE focus on this one? It seems overblown, too much attention - also when no one is allowed to question it or examine it, people silenced, killed, expelled etc just for the thought of it... well it starts to make the whole story very fishy imo.

As for the specific numbers, the Six Million number had been oddly/suspiciously used throughout jewish media even long before WWII, it was a catchphrase for jewish prophecy. Later I have learned that they even officially had to drop the numbers posted at historical sites etc several times if I recall correctly.

Also the descriptions of the actual concentration camps have been examined very interestingly, concluding that the sheer masses of people and corpses claimed to have been processed through these places simply are mathematical impossibilities. Just too many people in too small a space in too short a time. There are also lots of contradictory testimonies from prisoners saying that Auchwitz was not at all a nightmare, but that prisoners were treated well, had music, did plays and such. Most of the historical sites today are an 're-creations', and were heavily propagandized by Allied/jewish influence after WWII. Watch films breaking down the specifics of Treblinka, etc... the story simply does not make sense when compared to the actual structure and location. On top of this, when we actually look at EVIDENCE for what supposedly went down at these camps it is extremely sparse. Just a few testimonies at Nuremburg, and as far as I've found there is really not much more than that (?)

Also I would like to learn one day how many exactly were harmlessly deported via the Transfer Agreement.

All in all I find the story of WWII to be almost COMPLETELY written by the victors... that is not to say its all 100% lies, but it is told in this oversimplistic way of good-guy bad-guy, and when it was all done NONE of the Allies too blame for their own war crimes, while Hitler and the concentration camps were demonized to the absolute furthest degrees possible.

I am not a holocaust denier, but I am a strong questioner of the 'official' WWII narrative. How far the victor's lies go imo is yet to be decided... but considering the lack of internet or any real competitive media at the time, I do not find it beyond comprehension that GREAT lies have been told, and would not rule out the possibility that one day it is discovered that talk of a jewish holocaust was indeed a grand exaggeration.

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Postby Canuckster » Mon Dec 21, 2015 1:24 am

Turanian Trashtalker wrote:I believe the holocaust is real.

this sets me apart from the vast majority of CT retards. hitler spoke forever about how he wanted to exterminate jewry. it takes months to set up a concentration camp apparatus, especially if you have an infinite supply of cheap labor.

the germans were, and still are today one of the most efficient and organized people who have ever existed. they are born killing machines. if anybody on earth can organize a holocaust, it is them.

you can be anti-semitic without denying some very obvious historical facts... every country from Germany to Russia kept accurate census records of their population up until WWII, including jews. 5-7 million jewish deaths sounds accurate. Where did they all disappear during the war?


Will address this tomorrow, ponder your fate on the tree of woe
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