Chomsky: Trump Rising 4 Same Reasons Germany Embraced Hitler

[Masato]

Hey all

I will never forgive Chomsky for staying silent on 9/11... but respect his earlier works and still think he has some interesting views.

This one caught me by surprise, its interesting:


Chomsky: Trump Rising in Polls for Same Reasons Germany Embraced Hitler
http://theantimedia.org/chomsky-trump-r ... ed-hitler/

Adolf Hitler rose to power during a period of similar social tumult as that which has currently garnered Donald Trump such fervent support, according to Noam Chomsky. In a recent interview with Aaron Williams for Alternet, Chomsky explained how fear, alone, does not sufficiently explain Trump’s surprising popularity:

“Fear, along with the breakdown of society during the neoliberal period. People feel isolated, helpless, victim of powerful forces they do not understand and cannot influence.”

Governmental control over the lives of the U.S.’ populace has increased tremendously in recent time. With few avenues for effective protest — as in the example of Texas and other states, which have passed laws prohibiting localities to ban fracking — there is no shock such outsiders as Bernie Sanders and Trump have amassed throngs of devotees.

In fact, as Chomsky cautioned, the current social atmosphere that led to Donald Trump’s rise may actually be worse than the build-up to fascism in the early twentieth century:

“It’s interesting to compare the situation in the ‘30s, which I’m old enough to remember. Objectively, poverty and suffering were far greater. But even among poor working people and the unemployed, there was a sense of hope that is lacking now, in large part because of the growth of a militant labor movement and also the existence of political organizations outside the mainstream.”

Both Jeremy Corbyn in the U.K. and Sanders in the U.S. have conveyed signs of empathy toward traditional labor movements, Chomsky noted, calling the Vermont senator “an honest and decent New Deal Democrat.”

He added, tellingly, “The fact that they are regarded as ‘extreme’ is a comment on the shift to the right of the whole political spectrum during the neoliberal period.”

[IDL]

The masses have been lied to for so long that someone that comes along and even gives them a sliver of truth will be viewed favorably.

Both Sanders and Trump have called out the corrupt establishment which resonates. Trump also appeals to people who are fed up with political correctness when talking about big issues like border controls, which in a more politically correct way, Sanders has also mentioned just not as overtly.

Germans were suppressed in many ways by the banking and media establishments, while the promotion of prostitution, homosexuality, and sexual liberation was going on in the major cities so there are certainly some parallels.

It's like they follow a formula for this sort of thing, but we all know the global establishment is anti-nationalist (outside of Israel) so if they are indeed following a standard formula then they could be setting the US to fail.

[Masato]

Great breakdown by IDL.

I am not convinced by Sanders, he is talking lots of good talk but so did Obama, and I actually fell for that shit at the time lol

I have Hope though.
And Change.

lol

but yeah this also seems to be a pattern in lots of countries; when the frustration with leadership reaches a tipping point, extremists and their fanatic followers tend to rise.

[sparkuri]

Spot on IDL

[IDL]

Great breakdown by IDL.

I am not convinced by Sanders, he is talking lots of good talk but so did Obama, and I actually fell for that shit at the time lol

I have Hope though.
And Change.

lol

but yeah this also seems to be a pattern in lots of countries; when the frustration with leadership reaches a tipping point, extremists and their fanatic followers tend to rise.

Thanks, and yeah while Sanders says some good things about banks and whatnot, he's an open socialist and that is exactly where the NWO wants to take everyone. He's also an Israeli firster, and a little too Bolshevik for my tastes. So, I wouldn't trust him either.

A part of me wants to think Trump is as independent as he tries to portray and I am somewhat rooting for him to shake things up, but he's still a mystery.

[IDL]

Another aspect of Hitlers rise was that of youth organizations during his election which would clash with the communists youth leagues.

With Trump, there really is no such thing going on from his side, but there are the communist youth leagues of the left being used for this purpose trying to disrupt people who go to support Trump.

And by communist youth leagues, I refer to the openly Marxist organizations like BLM and Soros funded NGO's like Moveon.org and the OpenSociety which operate on college campuses. These are leftist arms of the establishment. In Europe these factions call themselves 'anti-fascist' groups.

Student youth have been being radicalized into Marxist theories for years now, and organizers have a nice pool to dip into.

[Luigi]

The biggest difference is that until the 60s academia was a balance of right and left thinkers while now leftists have a near complete monopoly through the tenure system. The internet's great ability to smell bullshit has created somewhat of a counterbalance, but will it be enough? Will society simply succumb to the social engineering despite this? If this does conquer the West, will the eventually be able to overcome Asia and Africa?

[What]

american politics is the bipolar pendulum that swings its pattern, alternating between dark and light grey. this is all done on purpose to provide as George Carlin called it "the illusion of choice"

this bullshit is played out on a smaller scale in Canadia land, just as the south as we are mimicking little frozen snot nose whiney political bitches, look who we have in now..............

chomsky absolutely is right..............reminds me of 25 years ago when friends and I realized on LSD as we were sitting on a porch at a friends discussing that our conversation had repeated itself over the millennia. that our time sitting having the discussion was as insignificant to the prior, it was only their repetition or wave and frequency that made us significant lmao

humans as individuals can be brilliant, masses of people and the populous that brings these people forward to represent a big dumb ignorant herd are as they present themselves. liars, thugs and lower fruit picking animals

none of this shit surprises me, the "collective conscience" is a retarded uncle and politics is the institution