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The Sandy Hook Investigations

Postby Daglord » Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:25 pm

Interesting about your link to real crime scene photos... I checked the link but required downloading which I don't like. What sort of photos are there? Real scenes inside the building?? wow

It's all in this link. both the Yogananda & SH crime scenes.

Official Sandy Hook Shooting Photos
http://sandyhookphotos.blogspot.com/

These photos are taken directly from the Compressed Sandy Hook Report released on November 25, 2013.

Compressed SH report (with photos): http://www.ct.gov/csao/lib/csao/compressed-sandy-hook-report.pdf
Compressed SH report (without photos): http://www.ct.gov/csao/lib/csao/Sandy_Hook_Final_Report.pdf

an article written about the release of the report & photos:

Heartbreaking accounts from child survivors of Sandy Hook massacre and images from inside the school released in final police report
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2530129/Newtown-aftermath-pictured-time-Harrowing-images-inside-Sandy-Hook-Elementary-School-released-final-report.html

* Shattered school windows, bullet marks in the walls and blood stains in the hallway seen in police images
* Discarded handgun seen in doorway of classroom where Lanza's rampage ended
* Evidence made public as police release full report into massacre

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Postby Daglord » Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:27 pm

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Postby Masato » Wed Jul 22, 2015 2:33 pm

watching this one now






Boy, do they hate sh conspiracies! lol Already dozens of insults and name-calling, exaggerated hatred of those with different opinions. See what I mean? These guys really hate the pro-SH-CT crowd to an unhealthy point. Not able to understand that even if 'hoaxers' are wrong, they are not necessarily bad just passionate because they believe there has been a deception. We really need to come together and help understand, not ridicule and demonize opposing perspectives. I will keep listening. So far their only claim is that 'too many people' would have had to have been involved. If that is a fair argument you can toss 9/11 out at face value too.


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... the thing about this SH hoax thing is that it's really not that big as it appears. the same people who made WNTTASH are the same people handling wolfgang, making all the other youtube vids, part of the SH hoax FB group or exposing the big three, covering the FOI hearings, harassing the parents & memorials, making fake accounts to discredit the debunkers, etc.


Really??

That is interesting. I always blindly assumed the mass of SH stuff was coming from multiple sources. Is Smallstrom in this pack?

I also didn't know Halbig and others were actually harassing parents.

Its so tough because if SH is a lie of some sorts, confronting those involved is fucking heroic. But if you don't have your facts straight and are running on error and misinfo, its horrifying. Such is the nature of SH, one's beliefs or suspicions drive us emotionally to 2 completely different extremes.

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Postby Daglord » Wed Jul 22, 2015 2:35 pm

4 later (new to me). soundcloud. July 20, 2015:

Spingola Speaks:Truth does not fear investigation: https://cloudup.com/cl9rLvf9imh

July 20, 2015
On June 25, 2015, Mr. Halbig resurrected the debunked “everyone must check-in sign” during an interview with Dave Gahary (AFP) following his second hearing before the Freedom of Information Commission in Connecticut. Deanna dissects and critiques her infamous interview of Wolfgang Halbig conducted on March 4, 2014. original interview here:

Spoiler:




Links for Deanna's Interview of Wolfgang W. Halbig on RBN and other notes
http://www.spingola.com/halbignotes.html

see the “Timeline” of Wolfgang's 'Operation Censorship':
Wolfgang Halbig Asks Deanna to Stop Asking Questions and Critiquing Smallstorm's Video Delphi/Censorship Operation
http://spingola.com/censorshipoperation.html

View the protocols of a Mass Casualty Incident (MCI):
Unraveling Sofia Smallstorm's Video on Sandy Hook, Part 2
http://spingola.com/unraveling2.html.

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Postby Masato » Wed Jul 22, 2015 2:40 pm

OK they are starting to break down the WNTTASH vid point by point.

Sensible points so far

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Postby Masato » Wed Jul 22, 2015 2:41 pm

I listened to Spingola vs Halbig already

was highly entertaining lol

She owns him a bunch of times, but again I find it unproductive to fight and discredit and to create 'camps' on the issue. They should have come together as they are (supposedly) on the same mission, and HELPED each other clarify each other's understanding. The goal should have been to debate for MUTUAL progression, to point out errors and fill in missing info, so that all parties come out with greater understanding.

The infighting makes me the most disappointed, really

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Postby Masato » Wed Jul 22, 2015 2:56 pm

Damn you, Daglord..! now I'm gonna have to keep posting shit lol

They are 'debunking' the question of why we see no mass-evacuation videos or photos. Why was none of it captured on the dash cams? Helicopter footage? etc.

Their response to the lack of footage on the cop dash-cam is fair, they simply suggest the evacuations took place somewhere else.

But then they rip into the question again by providing 1 or 2 photos showing SOME kids. They feel that's enough evidence, case closed. Then they start ridiculing again saying 'those smaller figures don't look like Bigfoot, or ET's..." - which again I find so immature and annoying to hear, what an arrogant tone.

Secondly, 1 or 2 photos where children are merely present does not = evidence of mass evacuation.

Remember, there were 1-2 photos of people picking up airplane debris on the lawn of the Pentagon, too!

Will keep listening

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Postby Daglord » Wed Jul 22, 2015 2:57 pm

Masato wrote:watching this one now

Boy, do they hate sh conspiracies! lol Already dozens of insults and name-calling, exaggerated hatred of those with different opinions. See what I mean? These guys really hate the pro-SH-CT crowd to an unhealthy point. Not able to understand that even if 'hoaxers' are wrong, they are not necessarily bad just passionate because they believe there has been a deception. We really need to come together and help understand, not ridicule and demonize opposing perspectives. I will keep listening. So far their only claim is that 'too many people' would have had to have been involved. If that is a fair argument you can toss 9/11 out at face value too.

yeah, that is prob the last one I would have suggested you watch. sorry about that. that one was more for me as I hadn't heard it yet. they do get a little rough, but I don't mind because I agree with them @ this point. It's been over 2 years now, anyone recycling the same disproven misinfo has got to be in on a coordinated effort to be this stupid. it's the only explanation imho. I don't see it being any different than hoaxers calling people "sheeple" or "dupes". I don't agree with it, & it's counterproductive, but I can understand it after dealing with EY for two years. his ignorance + his arrogance will he his downfall & can be maddeningly frustrating.

the better vids are the check in sign & firehouse vids from CW Wade. just facts, with very little clowning of the hoaxers. I said "little" because sometimes you just can't help it. like this one. unredacted vid of kids evacuating was right in front of TeamWakeEmUp's eyes. he just doesn't want to see it. wade even used the hoaxers own footage to point out his errors. lol. the irony.






Daglord wrote:
... the thing about this SH hoax thing is that it's really not that big as it appears. the same people who made WNTTASH are the same people handling wolfgang, making all the other youtube vids, part of the SH hoax FB group or exposing the big three, covering the FOI hearings, harassing the parents & memorials, making fake accounts to discredit the debunkers, etc.


Really??

That is interesting. I always blindly assumed the mass of SH stuff was coming from multiple sources. Is Smallstrom in this pack?

I also didn't know Halbig and others were actually harassing parents.

Its so tough because if SH is a lie of some sorts, confronting those involved is fucking heroic. But if you don't have your facts straight and are running on error and misinfo, its horrifying. Such is the nature of SH, one's beliefs or suspicions drive us emotionally to 2 completely different extremes.

yup. as far as I know. look no further than the SH hoax facebook group. those are wolfgang's ADMITTED handlers. I don't think smallstorm is part of it, after that presentation @ conspiracy con, she has pretty much distanced herself from it. I know she has from halbig specifically. she is concentrating more on chemtrails again. I haven't seen her doing anything re: SH lately, but I could be wrong.

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Postby Masato » Wed Jul 22, 2015 2:58 pm

FFS if the dude in that vid doesn't stop saying 'Truth-tards' I won't be able to handle this

lol

so rude/juvenile

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Postby Masato » Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:06 pm

^ the last video you posted indeed shows more photos of kids being evacuated

I am beginning to see your point... most of the big SH stuff really does ignore/overlook a lot of stuff that's right there


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