The Murder of Charlene Downes

[Luigi]

If there is ever a case to show the extreme bias in the media its this one. Charlene was a 14 year old girl from Blackpool, England, and she was one of about 60 young White girls in the town who were sexually groomed by Muslim men. She would later be killed by her groomers, who owned a fast food restaurant and disposed of her body by putting it in kebab meat. They also put part of her body under the tiles of the restaurant floor to hide it and boasted about this. However the killers got away on a technicality because police mishandled the evidence. So where are the murals, statues, and nonstop media coverage of Charlene? Theres none of course, it just gets covered as if it was just any murder. The man who murdered her but was let off would later go on to be arrested for publicly assaulting an 18 year old girl. Charlene's sister would later be arrested for assaulting the brother of the killer, and Charlene's brother would later be arrested for assaulting the mans accomplice who disposed of her body.

[Masato]

what do you suspect the principal motivations were for the media to protect this story?

Because of compliance to diversity woke cancel culture?

Or perhaps because investigations might have led to more elite, non-muslim/British names?

When was this?
Interesting find. I've seen plenty of child trafficking/murder cases in the UK get silenced by the media and protected in the courts. But never when a 'muslim gang' was involved.
This opens several questions...

[Luigi]

what do you suspect the principal motivations were for the media to protect this story?

Because of compliance to diversity woke cancel culture?

Or perhaps because investigations might have led to more elite, non-muslim/British names?

When was this?
Interesting find. I've seen plenty of child trafficking/murder cases in the UK get silenced by the media and protected in the courts. But never when a 'muslim gang' was involved.
This opens several questions...

This was back in the early 00s, and at the time anything done by Muslims was suppressed by the police themselves, which they admitted to. Yes it was to uphold the "diversity is our strength" status quo. It only gets spoken about now because people like Tommy Robinson brought awareness to it until it couldnt be ignored anymore.

[Edge Guerrero]

- I've seen this picv before. But dindt knew the name or what happened!

[Masato]

what do you suspect the principal motivations were for the media to protect this story?

Because of compliance to diversity woke cancel culture?

Or perhaps because investigations might have led to more elite, non-muslim/British names?

When was this?
Interesting find. I've seen plenty of child trafficking/murder cases in the UK get silenced by the media and protected in the courts. But never when a 'muslim gang' was involved.
This opens several questions...

This was back in the early 00s, and at the time anything done by Muslims was suppressed by the police themselves, which they admitted to. Yes it was to uphold the "diversity is our strength" status quo. It only gets spoken about now because people like Tommy Robinson brought awareness to it until it couldnt be ignored anymore.

Tommy Robinson has been ousted clearly as an Israeli plant. There is a thread in here somewhere about it. He is not the hero many thought he was, even though the core of his message at the time was reasonable and even perhaps correct.

Which threads the whole timeline in an interesting way imo; None of this was organic I suspect.
We are all being played through chapters of a longer script, via the media, finance, and politics.

This is the modern form of warfare I think. Long term stages. People are not understanding

[Luigi]

what do you suspect the principal motivations were for the media to protect this story?

Because of compliance to diversity woke cancel culture?

Or perhaps because investigations might have led to more elite, non-muslim/British names?

When was this?
Interesting find. I've seen plenty of child trafficking/murder cases in the UK get silenced by the media and protected in the courts. But never when a 'muslim gang' was involved.
This opens several questions...

This was back in the early 00s, and at the time anything done by Muslims was suppressed by the police themselves, which they admitted to. Yes it was to uphold the "diversity is our strength" status quo. It only gets spoken about now because people like Tommy Robinson brought awareness to it until it couldnt be ignored anymore.

Tommy Robinson has been ousted clearly as an Israeli plant. There is a thread in here somewhere about it. He is not the hero many thought he was, even though the core of his message at the time was reasonable and even perhaps correct.

Which threads the whole timeline in an interesting way imo; None of this was organic I suspect.
We are all being played through chapters of a longer script, via the media, finance, and politics.

This is the modern form of warfare I think. Long term stages. People are not understanding

How do we know he is an Israel plant? Is it just because he is pro-Israel and gets donations from some right wing thinktank types who are also pro-Israel? He grew up in Lutton, his cousin was groomed, he has done a ton of jail time, had his teeth knocked out, Muslims harass his ex-wife and kids, I saw him go to Italy with a cameraman to interview African migrants and one got violent with him and he knocked the guy out. He has done a great job with his journalism too. He did a Veritas style honeypot on a MSM exec. I definitely dont consider it a problem he happens to be pro-Israel.

[Masato]

This was back in the early 00s, and at the time anything done by Muslims was suppressed by the police themselves, which they admitted to. Yes it was to uphold the "diversity is our strength" status quo. It only gets spoken about now because people like Tommy Robinson brought awareness to it until it couldnt be ignored anymore.

Tommy Robinson has been ousted clearly as an Israeli plant. There is a thread in here somewhere about it. He is not the hero many thought he was, even though the core of his message at the time was reasonable and even perhaps correct.

Which threads the whole timeline in an interesting way imo; None of this was organic I suspect.
We are all being played through chapters of a longer script, via the media, finance, and politics.

This is the modern form of warfare I think. Long term stages. People are not understanding

How do we know he is an Israel plant? Is it just because he is pro-Israel and gets donations from some right wing thinktank types who are also pro-Israel? He grew up in Lutton, his cousin was groomed, he has done a ton of jail time, had his teeth knocked out, Muslims harass his ex-wife and kids, I saw him go to Italy with a cameraman to interview African migrants and one got violent with him and he knocked the guy out. He has done a great job with his journalism too. He did a Veritas style honeypot on a MSM exec. I definitely dont consider it a problem he happens to be pro-Israel.

Hmm, perhaps.

I found the other thread about him, here were the notes I made from an interview that seems to have a dead link now. I'm sure you can verify if you dig:

Called Oct 7 several times.
Said the land 'historically' belongs to them.
Says the whole world is antisemetic for no reason so they need a safe place to go.
Says Israel is the only thing keeping the rest of the world safe from global jihad.
Says he went to Israel and all the Arabs said they were oppressed by Palestinian Authorities, and NOT ONE said they were oppressed by Israel.
Says Palestinians are paid a monthly salary to kill Israelis (as if IDL soldiers don't get compensated).
Says the British Government sends money to the Palestinian Authorities, who then pay young kids from Gaza to kill Israelis (no mention of British funding for the reverse).
Shakes his head sarcastically at the term 'apartheid state' as if it's a delusion.
Then he rants on more about Oct 7 Hamas Raping women & children.
Not a word of empathy for the Palestinians being genocided.


Yes it's possible you are right, his opinion on the matter may have nothing to do with his actions regarding immigration.

But it seems he doth protest too much, if you know what I mean.

Also there is much more linking the recent disastrous immigration policies of western countries to Israel than just Tommy Robinson.

He was not wrong to call out many of the things he called out, but there is some sort of long-term game is unfolding here imo
A lot of gaslighting going on to rile up division from all angles imo

[Luigi]

Tommy Robinson has been ousted clearly as an Israeli plant. There is a thread in here somewhere about it. He is not the hero many thought he was, even though the core of his message at the time was reasonable and even perhaps correct.

Which threads the whole timeline in an interesting way imo; None of this was organic I suspect.
We are all being played through chapters of a longer script, via the media, finance, and politics.

This is the modern form of warfare I think. Long term stages. People are not understanding

How do we know he is an Israel plant? Is it just because he is pro-Israel and gets donations from some right wing thinktank types who are also pro-Israel? He grew up in Lutton, his cousin was groomed, he has done a ton of jail time, had his teeth knocked out, Muslims harass his ex-wife and kids, I saw him go to Italy with a cameraman to interview African migrants and one got violent with him and he knocked the guy out. He has done a great job with his journalism too. He did a Veritas style honeypot on a MSM exec. I definitely dont consider it a problem he happens to be pro-Israel.

Hmm, perhaps.

I found the other thread about him, here were the notes I made from an interview that seems to have a dead link now. I'm sure you can verify if you dig:

Called Oct 7 several times.
Said the land 'historically' belongs to them.
Says the whole world is antisemetic for no reason so they need a safe place to go.
Says Israel is the only thing keeping the rest of the world safe from global jihad.
Says he went to Israel and all the Arabs said they were oppressed by Palestinian Authorities, and NOT ONE said they were oppressed by Israel.
Says Palestinians are paid a monthly salary to kill Israelis (as if IDL soldiers don't get compensated).
Says the British Government sends money to the Palestinian Authorities, who then pay young kids from Gaza to kill Israelis (no mention of British funding for the reverse).
Shakes his head sarcastically at the term 'apartheid state' as if it's a delusion.
Then he rants on more about Oct 7 Hamas Raping women & children.
Not a word of empathy for the Palestinians being genocided.


Yes it's possible you are right, his opinion on the matter may have nothing to do with his actions regarding immigration.

But it seems he doth protest too much, if you know what I mean.

Also there is much more linking the recent disastrous immigration policies of western countries to Israel than just Tommy Robinson.

He was not wrong to call out many of the things he called out, but there is some sort of long-term game is unfolding here imo
A lot of gaslighting going on to rile up division from all angles imo

Yeah he does talk about Israel a bit too much for my liking as well. I think he sees it as a strategy - the public is talking about something contentious that involves Muslims, he jumps in and takes a side and peppers it with some of his more general talking points winning name recognition and getting his message out there. All the while potentially getting on the good side of influential Jews who might help him. The problem is it might not be worth it because he alienates the people who are sick of Israel's BS. What can we really do though? The anti-Israel crowd consists of progressives and Muslim immigrants on the one hard who will never support nationalistic immigration regulation, and us on the other hand - right wingers who typically have to accept any help we can get.

[Masato]

How do we know he is an Israel plant? Is it just because he is pro-Israel and gets donations from some right wing thinktank types who are also pro-Israel? He grew up in Lutton, his cousin was groomed, he has done a ton of jail time, had his teeth knocked out, Muslims harass his ex-wife and kids, I saw him go to Italy with a cameraman to interview African migrants and one got violent with him and he knocked the guy out. He has done a great job with his journalism too. He did a Veritas style honeypot on a MSM exec. I definitely dont consider it a problem he happens to be pro-Israel.

Hmm, perhaps.

I found the other thread about him, here were the notes I made from an interview that seems to have a dead link now. I'm sure you can verify if you dig:

Called Oct 7 several times.
Said the land 'historically' belongs to them.
Says the whole world is antisemetic for no reason so they need a safe place to go.
Says Israel is the only thing keeping the rest of the world safe from global jihad.
Says he went to Israel and all the Arabs said they were oppressed by Palestinian Authorities, and NOT ONE said they were oppressed by Israel.
Says Palestinians are paid a monthly salary to kill Israelis (as if IDL soldiers don't get compensated).
Says the British Government sends money to the Palestinian Authorities, who then pay young kids from Gaza to kill Israelis (no mention of British funding for the reverse).
Shakes his head sarcastically at the term 'apartheid state' as if it's a delusion.
Then he rants on more about Oct 7 Hamas Raping women & children.
Not a word of empathy for the Palestinians being genocided.


Yes it's possible you are right, his opinion on the matter may have nothing to do with his actions regarding immigration.

But it seems he doth protest too much, if you know what I mean.

Also there is much more linking the recent disastrous immigration policies of western countries to Israel than just Tommy Robinson.

He was not wrong to call out many of the things he called out, but there is some sort of long-term game is unfolding here imo
A lot of gaslighting going on to rile up division from all angles imo

Yeah he does talk about Israel a bit too much for my liking as well. I think he sees it as a strategy - the public is talking about something contentious that involves Muslims, he jumps in and takes a side and peppers it with some of his more general talking points winning name recognition and getting his message out there. All the while potentially getting on the good side of influential Jews who might help him. The problem is it might not be worth it because he alienates the people who are sick of Israel's BS. What can we really do though? The anti-Israel crowd consists of progressives and Muslim immigrants on the one hard who will never support nationalistic immigration regulation, and us on the other hand - right wingers who typically have to accept any help we can get.

Yes I agree; both sides of the issue are being stoked and milked from the outside imo. Almost the entire western world is being gaslit and instigated for internal division and conflict. There are no more opinions left on the issue that doesn't put you into a box and have 1/2 the population hating you.

Meanwhile while everyone argues, no one can stop it.
A truly terrible situation

[Masato]

Tommy Robinson back in the spotlight again.

From the scraps that I've read so far, it seems he just finished a documentary that got him in some hot water.
Some sort of contempt of court situation (?) and now he's locked up in prison.

Documentary is probably nauseating to watch but I wonder what's going on with him.
I still think he's being used as a Zionist pawn to fan the flames in the UK and control/steer the opposition, but if that's so it looks like his handlers have thrown him under the bus.

Or its all just another promotional stunt to get his doc a whack of views.

anyways here is it: