SOAKED IN BLEACH 2015

[Daglord]

here is the SIB docudrama that johan was talking about.

has only been up for a few hours & prob won't be for long.

Soaked in Bleach is an American docudrama directed by Benjamin Statler, who co-wrote and produced it with Richard Middelton and Donnie Eichar. The film details the events leading up to the death of Kurt Cobain, as seen through the perspective of Tom Grant, the private detective who was hired by Courtney Love to find Cobain, her husband, shortly before his death in 1994. It also explores the concept that Cobain's death was not a suicide. The film stars Tyler Bryan as Cobain and Daniel Roebuck as Grant, with Sarah Scott portraying Courtney Love and August Emerson as Dylan Carlson.

The film provides a look at the death of Kurt Cobain (portrayed by Tyler Bryan), the lead singer of the American grunge band Nirvana, as seen through the perspective of Tom Grant (portrayed by Daniel Roebuck). In addition to the dramatization of Cobain's death, the film will combine documentary footage as well as interviews from people associated with the case, including Cobain's attorney, Rosemary Carroll,[1] Norm Stamper and Cyril Wecht.[2][3]

[Daglord]

and for everyone who saw 'soaked, bleach, 2015' & stopped in the thread for a completely different reason...

this is the best I could do.

[Som-Pong]

Keep your faggot shit off of my forum.
LAST WARNING - Ringside Angel

[Daglord]

lol. my bad, forgot where I was for a second...

[Som-Pong]

That shit don't fly son, next you post something cockless.

[Daglord]

gonna drop these here for those who may have missed 'soaked in bleach'.

haven't watched either one of them yet, so not responsible for any bullshit...

Kurt Cobain: Murder of an Icon (2014)



KURT COBAIN: MURDERED (Full Movie)



5 hours ?!?!?!?! :shock:

I also HIGHLY recommend brendan's YT channel. some of the best investigative work on SH I have ever seen.

and YES, he questions the official story.

[Anti D]

onna drop these here for those who may have missed 'soaked in bleach'.

haven't watched either one of them yet, so not responsible for any bullshit...

Hey daglord what did you think of "Soaked in Bleach?" Honestly I felt that while the source material is fascinating it came off very amateurish. Honestly lots of it seemed like a weak episode of forensic files/unsolved mysterious/america's most wanted from the late 90's. I have seen more interesting mysteries or "Whodunits" on Dateline on NBC.

I will admit it was VERY late when you posted it and I watched it half asleep in the middle of the night and missed the final 20 minutes. What do you think is the biggest piece of evidence AGAINST it being a suicide?

I know people to say the level of heroin in his system and the diff it would make operating a shotgun. I can speak from personal experience what one person can handle on opiates can be entirely different from the next depending on tolerance.

* hangs up and waits for response *

* Lenny from Simpsons gif *

[Daglord]

It's baaaaaaaaaaaaaack! (& again, prob not for long)

this time in HD.

Come doused in mud, soaked in bleach
As I want you to be
As a trend, as a friend
As an old
Memoria, memoria
Memoria, memoria

[Daglord]

Hey daglord what did you think of "Soaked in Bleach?" Honestly I felt that while the source material is fascinating it came off very amateurish. Honestly lots of it seemed like a weak episode of forensic files/unsolved mysterious/america's most wanted from the late 90's. I have seen more interesting mysteries or "Whodunits" on Dateline on NBC.

I will admit it was VERY late when you posted it and I watched it half asleep in the middle of the night and missed the final 20 minutes. What do you think is the biggest piece of evidence AGAINST it being a suicide?

I know people to say the level of heroin in his system and the diff it would make operating a shotgun. I can speak from personal experience what one person can handle on opiates can be entirely different from the next depending on tolerance.

* hangs up and waits for response *

* Lenny from Simpsons gif *

hate to comment on something without watching it a few times... but...

it's really hard to say. one thing is for certain though, courtney is caught on numerous audio tapes lying over & over. intentionally deceiving, misdirecting & being a straight up nuisance to the investigation.

she lied about the location of the suicide note & they even found a practice letter of her trying to duplicate kurt's handwriting. kurt's friend, & nirvana's attorney, is on record as saying that the note was NOT in kurt's handwriting.

almost EVERY TIME the PI mentioned that he wanted to talk to the ex-boyfriend/nanny, courtney made sure he shot up first & was basically useless. she kept control of everyone afterwards by being their dopeman. during his final days, she also appeared to be more concerned about what he was doing (money, divorce, etc) than his overall well-being.

& there was really no investigation into the case. It was deemed suicide within hours of the police's arrival & the crime scene photos were never even processed. autopsy and toxicology reports weren't even finished when they closed the case. there are a couple people within the SEA PD that feel the case needs to be re-opened.

of course, there is also the fact that he shot himself up with over 3x any functioning limit. but that is subjective.

also the location of the ejected shell was fishy (but I don't really remember this part much, have to watch again).

^^^^^ initial thoughts. like I said, I only watched it once. will be watching again.

with all that said, I really hate docudramas. this one wasn't so bad, but I can usually do without all the re-enactments. cheesy for sure.

[Anti D]

Hey daglord what did you think of "Soaked in Bleach?" Honestly I felt that while the source material is fascinating it came off very amateurish. Honestly lots of it seemed like a weak episode of forensic files/unsolved mysterious/america's most wanted from the late 90's. I have seen more interesting mysteries or "Whodunits" on Dateline on NBC.

I will admit it was VERY late when you posted it and I watched it half asleep in the middle of the night and missed the final 20 minutes. What do you think is the biggest piece of evidence AGAINST it being a suicide?

I know people to say the level of heroin in his system and the diff it would make operating a shotgun. I can speak from personal experience what one person can handle on opiates can be entirely different from the next depending on tolerance.

* hangs up and waits for response *

* Lenny from Simpsons gif *

hate to comment on something without watching it a few times... but...

it's really hard to say. one thing is for certain though, courtney is caught on numerous audio tapes lying over & over. intentionally deceiving, misdirecting & being a straight up nuisance to the investigation.

she lied about the location of the suicide note & they even found a practice letter of her trying to duplicate kurt's handwriting. kurt's friend, & nirvana's attorney, is on record as saying that the note was NOT in kurt's handwriting.

almost EVERY TIME the PI mentioned that he wanted to talk to the ex-boyfriend/nanny, courtney made sure he shot up first & was basically useless. she kept control of everyone afterwards by being their dopeman. during his final days, she also appeared to be more concerned about what he was doing (money, divorce, etc) than his overall well-being.

& there was really no investigation into the case. It was deemed suicide within hours of the police's arrival & the crime scene photos were never even processed. autopsy and toxicology reports weren't even finished when they closed the case. there are a couple people within the SEA PD that feel the case needs to be re-opened.

of course, there is also the fact that he shot himself up with over 3x any functioning limit. but that is subjective.

also the location of the ejected shell was fishy (but I don't really remember this part much, have to watch again).

^^^^^ initial thoughts. like I said, I only watched it once. will be watching again.

with all that said, I really hate docudramas. this one wasn't so bad, but I can usually do without all the re-enactments. cheesy for sure.

Yeah I wan't to watch it again before I dismiss it. One thing I can say about listening to Courtney was they she was obviously a Junkie and probably a compulsive liar. I've been around hundreds of them and they can not be trusted at all.

Drugs like Heroin and cocaine will turn even the most trustworthy person into a compulsive liar and exacerbate a preexisting case of it. The only thing they think of is the "next score." My ex girlfriends sister was murdered over stealing drugs and I dealt with another of her sisters who suffered from addiction and reminded me of Courtney for YEARS.

Another thing I didn't like about the movie was where they tried to show video where Kurt said "He received medicine" for his stomach condition showing that he wasn't suicidal. I have not followed his career of this case as close as you but I remember watching that other movie and reading that HEROIN was the only thing that took away his stomach ailments. So I doubt Kurt Cobain or Courtney Love who are not only "partners" in a sexual relationship but "drug partners" and aren't going to admit to some reporter "Yeah I'm shooting Black tar Heroin and FEEL GREAT!"

I agree with you about the investigation seeming like a small town fuck up. this is why I really didn't take what the friends or "locals" were saying too seriously. They seemed like down on their luck people looking for a dollar. A interesting point to think about is didn't this happen areound the same time as OJ Simpson murder case. It's crazy that another PD would bungle a crime scene like this after what happened in Brentwood.

Again I have not followed this case but am just giving my personal experience and what I saw from the movie. I am going to try to watch it again before I get a case of the "confirmation bias" that is going around.