The Sandy Hook Investigations

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The Sandy Hook Investigations

Postby Daglord » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:07 am

this is one of those threads Im using to dump anything I come across for later. so much stupid shit on SH over there, I figured it might be a nice, quick resource. stopped postiing it @ jackie’s because it was obviously being ignored by almost everyone but ben anyway (thanks again). I still shake my head @ a 10 page thread on a video NO ONE WATCHED :D

really not trying to beat a dead horse here. this halbig and SH hoax thing has me more interested than SH itself because it is so stupid. that & it being very disrespectful. IMO, there really is nothing to base that theory on. anyone left pushing it has either got to be trolling, have a vested interest in it or be completely delusional (all views welcome here though, post away).

my personal problem later with it was/is how the hoaxtards are going about pushing this theory. with fraudulent & intentionally misleading evidence and guerilla type tactics because they have nothing. EY’s behavior on the OG in that latest thread was unacceptable. I used to think he was just delusional, but now thinking he's also an asshole. & there is NO DOUBT in my mind he is lying about “meeting two people in china that are from the newtown area & confirm it is a spook town”. lololololol. & we’re just hearing about this now?? yeah right. vulva nailed it, the way he completely disregards anything anyone else has to say (especially the people who had been on that forum FOR YEARS from CT), & instead chooses to lie or mislead is very disturbing. the very definition of confirmation bias. DERP. EY is a good example of all that is wrong in the CT community right now imo.

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& when EY couldn’t understand why lenny pozner was defending himself & noah online is when I knew that he was not only ignorant about the case itself, but completely lacking in any critical/rational thinking ability.

your child was just murdered @ his school & people are saying he never existed. that you’re a piece of shit crisis actor, federal spook, posting your family photos all over the internet, calling you all kinds of names, threatening/harassing you & your family IRL & online etc, etc. how would you react? personally, I might have gone APESHIT.

lenny went to wolfgang’s house once to meet him. brought pictures of noah, birth & death certificates, a shit ton of stuff to prove that noah was real & wolfgang ran inside & hid while posting on facebook that “lenny is outside” so he “must be getting close”. fuck that guy

“You would not believe who is at my front gate of a gated community in Sorento, Florida trying to get in to see me?
LEENY POZNER. A parent who supposedly died on Dec 14, 2012 at Sandy Hook.
Why would he travel from sandy hook to Florida and then to my gated community?
If I called him or his wife Veronica I would be arrested for Harassment by the CT State Police.”


https://sandyhookstalkers.wordpress.com/2014/06/01/halbig-hides-from-the-truth/

For those unaware, Lenny Pozner’s precious son, Noah, was among those murdered by Adam Lanza on December 14, 2012. His daughters, Arielle and Sofia, were also in attendance that day and might have met the same fate as their brother had it not been for the quick and courageous efforts of first-responders and school staff, namely first-grade teacher Kaitlin Roig.Since that tragic day, Mr. Pozner has been one of the few surviving parents willing to discuss the tragedy openly and even maintains a website where he shares family photos and personal insights on Noah to help keep the memory of his son alive.

Just recently, Mr. Pozner took his transparency one step further by publicly releasing Noah’s birth certificate, his two-page kindergarten report card from Sandy Hook Elementary School (SHES), his death certificate and the first page of an investigative report by the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner (OCME).Although these documents are exempt from disclosure under Connecticut’s Freedom of Information Act, Mr. Pozner hoped their release would help satisfy some conspiracy theorists who were demanding, among other things, evidence of Noah’s existence, proof of his death and details about the emergency response.

Unfortunately, Mr. Pozner’s measure of good faith wasn’t enough to satisfy the irrational Sandy Hook hoaxers who immediately dismissed the postings as fake digital images of fictitious physical documents.Of course, just like all hoaxer “research,” these purely speculative assertions came from unqualified armchair detectives unable to support their claims with even a shred of factual evidence.

This brings us now to Wolfgang Halbig. I recently spoke with Lenny Pozner and confirmed that, yes, he was in Florida. Though he was there on unrelated personal business, Lenny was hoping to work in a visit with Halbig to answer any questions he might have about the SHES tragedy and to address the many falsehoods being propagated by the hoaxer community. Lenny also wanted to show Noah’s physical death certificate and other documents to Halbig in hopes that he would vouch for their authenticity.

“I called him a few days before I drove there and his voice mail was full,” Lenny told me in a recent email.

Since Lenny was unsuccessful in reaching him by phone, he contacted one of Halbig’s associates and asked if they could relay the message that he would like to arrange a meeting. Shortly thereafter, the associate emailed Lenny to say that Wolfgang didn’t want to speak with him.

“The same attempt was made to tenured Florida Professor James Tracy,” Lenny told me. “He holds the same beliefs as Halbig and that communication had the same outcome.”

Remember, this is the same Wolfgang Halbig who has been demanding that parents, first responders and anyone else connected to the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre be dragged into court to face grueling depositions.One would think that those leading the investigation of this alleged hoax would jump at an opportunity to pick the brain of a Sandy Hook parent who is not only volunteering to answer your questions but is also willing to do so in person and on your own turf.

But, of course, Wolfgang Halbig is not an investigator—he’s a con man. Each day, this fraudster BRINGS nothing new to the table but TAKES in large sums of cash. As of this writing, Halbig has raised more than $23,000 on his GoFundMe account and god knows how many thousands from other sources like PayPal, mail orders, cash, checks, etc. etc.

By now, it should be glaringly obvious to any rational person that there is no “fact-finding mission” and certainly no “quest for truth” on the Wolfgang Halbig agenda. This isn’t about getting answers—it’s about getting money.


& now halbig is using that donation money to attack the first amendment. lol. he has NO chance of winning. what a dumbfuck this guy is & his followers too imo. funny how he is not talking about this @ all, preferring to keep it quiet, but wasting everyone’s time with FOI hearings & being paraded all around the alternative media for that.

& the way EY spams his forum (& the OG) stroking wolfgang is suspicious. he really turned it up after halbig thanked him. lol. it's an ego thing imho, more than likely trying to gain some attn (notoriety) for his site, but that is NOT the horse I'd hitch my wagon to or who I'd want to be associated with.

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Postby Benwahwah » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:45 am

Daglord wrote:
"Maybe I'm naive, but I just can't see a government killing its own children in such a brutal fashion for no apparent reason."

I don't mean any disrespect when I say this, but yes... you are naive regarding this issue. If you have the stomach for it, here are 2 documentaries on the topic in the US. One from the 80's and one from the 90's. The same kind of thing goes on in Europe as well. These two vids are not easy to watch but are necessary if you want to have insight into how the controllers operate.


great vid pen. 'COS' was one of the very first I watched that "opened my eyes" if you will. even better book (franklin cover up).

I'm not sure that Ben was talking about pedo & ritual sacrifice, but more a false flag by the gov't involving the gunning down children in the middle of the day @ their elementary school. I don't buy it either. & like he said, it didn't do/accomplish anything towards furthering any agenda. but I can't speak for him.

unfortunately, child abuse @ the highest levels on the other hand has been proven time & time again. it's a sad, sick fucking world we live in. apples and oranges though imo.


Well said Daglord, this is my line of thinking. I did watch both of the documentaries penxv and they are definitely fucked up situations, but as Daglord says they are very different kinds of crimes.

I also think that if something as heinous as Sandy Hook was done then there would be someone wo was actually a part of it that would have spoken up about it by now. As of yet there hasn't been any proper whistleblowers that I've seen, just people with conspiracy theories.

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Postby penxv » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:49 am

Daglord wrote:
"Maybe I'm naive, but I just can't see a government killing its own children in such a brutal fashion for no apparent reason."

I don't mean any disrespect when I say this, but yes... you are naive regarding this issue. If you have the stomach for it, here are 2 documentaries on the topic in the US. One from the 80's and one from the 90's. The same kind of thing goes on in Europe as well. These two vids are not easy to watch but are necessary if you want to have insight into how the controllers operate.


great vid pen. 'COS' was one of the very first I watched that "opened my eyes" if you will. even better book (franklin cover up).

I'm not sure that Ben was talking about pedo & ritual sacrifice, but more a false flag by the gov't involving the gunning down children in the middle of the day @ their elementary school. I don't buy it either. & like he said, it didn't do/accomplish anything towards furthering any agenda. but I can't speak for him.

unfortunately, child abuse @ the highest levels on the other hand has been proven time & time again. it's a sad, sick fucking world we live in. apples and oranges though imo.



SH is a different thing for sure. I was just illustrating the depths that they sink to on a regular basis.

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Postby penxv » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:52 am

If it was a false flag, they could have just taken the kids for their sick uses whenever. And they certainly had a gun-grabbing PR agenda ready to go.

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Postby Daglord » Sun Jun 28, 2015 1:12 pm

penxv wrote:If it was a false flag, they could have just taken the kids for their sick uses whenever. And they certainly had a gun-grabbing PR agenda ready to go.


I think @ this point (in my personal opinion) hoax is out and false flag questionable. hoax theory is ridiculous & false flag’s are usually reserved for stirring up favorable war time sentiment. nothing close to either has happened & if for a “war on guns”, it was embarrassingly ineffective as guns sales increased & no guns were banned anywhere.

only logical explanations left (that I can think of) would be act of terrorism (something so horrifying/kept quiet because they don't think we could possibly conceive it) or it happened as they say it happened.

with that said, if you want to explore that angle that would be awesome. I’d love to talk anything other than hoax @ this point & that’s come up more than a few times. I think count iblis brought it up once over there & it was immediately disregarded (catholic church, abuse, *SURPRISE*) there are some definite links between lanza & the st rose mary school and potential abuse. very well could be motive… or something else.

I’ve looked into this quite a bit, to the point of burnout. but almost all that time was spent on the ignorant hoax theory. honestly, SH hoax, 9/11 no planes & and the BB hoax almost burnt me out completely of almost all conspiracy talk. I welcome something else, it would be refreshing.

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Postby SRBrant » Sun Jun 28, 2015 3:19 pm

Daglord wrote:
penxv wrote:If it was a false flag, they could have just taken the kids for their sick uses whenever. And they certainly had a gun-grabbing PR agenda ready to go.


I think @ this point (in my personal opinion) hoax is out and false flag questionable. hoax theory is ridiculous & false flag’s are usually reserved for stirring up favorable war time sentiment. nothing close to either has happened & if for a “war on guns”, it was embarrassingly ineffective as guns sales increased & no guns were banned anywhere.

only logical explanations left (that I can think of) would be act of terrorism (something so horrifying/kept quiet because they don't think we could possibly conceive it) or it happened as they say it happened.

with that said, if you want to explore that angle that would be awesome. I’d love to talk anything other than hoax @ this point & that’s come up more than a few times. I think count iblis brought it up once over there & it was immediately disregarded (catholic church, abuse, *SURPRISE*) there are some definite links between lanza & the st rose mary school and potential abuse. very well could be motive… or something else.

I’ve looked into this quite a bit, to the point of burnout. but almost all that time was spent on the ignorant hoax theory. honestly, SH hoax, 9/11 no planes & and the BB hoax almost burnt me out completely of almost all conspiracy talk. I welcome something else, it would be refreshing.


People always want there to be an ulterior motive to make things "simpler", when it's only making it more complex! They say it was a false flag to "encourage harsher gun control". As if we don't NEED a reason to enforce gun control?!

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Postby penxv » Sun Jun 28, 2015 4:03 pm

False flag is the wrong term for sure.

Constructed reality maybe. It goes in line with what Naomi Wolf was talking about in the vid you posted. It would be crazy not to question the official narrative.

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Postby SRBrant » Mon Jun 29, 2015 3:06 pm

We need to focus our attentions against corporatism and not the ramblings of psychotic talk radio DJs! And I will NOT let paranoia and conspiracy theories tear the Kitsune Society apart!

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Postby penxv » Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:49 pm

SRBrant wrote:We need to focus our attentions against corporatism and not the ramblings of psychotic talk radio DJs! And I will NOT let paranoia and conspiracy theories tear the Kitsune Society apart!


Could you explain the Kitsune Society? I don't really get it.


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