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Postby Canuckster » Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:32 am

all martial arts have techniques that are more than viable in mma, it takes so long to become proficient in each however that one cannot possible see them all, let alone become proficient enough with them to use in combat, hence why you see at most 2-3 styles mashed together in mma, anything more imo and you couldn't become proficient enough with what works.
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Postby What » Wed Jul 08, 2015 3:21 pm

Canuckster wrote:all martial arts have techniques that are more than viable in mma, it takes so long to become proficient in each however that one cannot possible see them all, let alone become proficient enough with them to use in combat, hence why you see at most 2-3 styles mashed together in mma, anything more imo and you couldn't become proficient enough with what works.


There are of course exceptions to that rule





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Postby Masato » Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:36 pm

^ really? All I saw was another demo in slow-motion.

That's the problem with these 'deadly' arts; how many hours (minutes?) do any of them train in REAL TIME? Boxers and MMA fighters spar every day, BJJ roll every day, they feel it as it is.

This guy was demoing strikes 1, 2, 3.. etc. But the dude was just staying there for him, frozen? Could he really connect with all 3 in a real scrap?

IMO the UFC really did prove a lot; when your opponent is actually coming at you and trying to win, good luck executing wristlocks etc. Miss that move, or get knocked over and watchagonnado?? (insert Hulkster photo)

Still a lively debate I'd say

Would be amazing to see someone doing Aikido/Bagua-style takedowns in MMA one day

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Postby What » Wed Jul 08, 2015 6:13 pm

Masato, seriously you do know whom the dude is in the video? As an aside Dan is 74, he would fuck shit up in plenty situations. granted hes not UFC age my fren

drop the sticks or blade/swords its Mauy Thai

If you feel the speed efficiency and direct of energy off him you would be amazed

go to 10:30 on video

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Postby What » Wed Jul 08, 2015 6:19 pm

In first video Dan was 70, this one he is 74....





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Postby Canuckster » Wed Jul 08, 2015 6:20 pm

Must be the fast twitch asian muscle fibers I've heard so much about.

I don't know much about inosanto, and I'm sure he could take care of himself, but unless he applies these techniques in direct combat, they are untested. I'm not saying he hasn't, I'm saying I don't think he has, he may be able to take out the average untrained or even trained street thug, but until he tests it in combat you can't say all his techniques are legit.
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Postby Som-Pong » Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:51 am

TMA works. Otherwise it wouldn't have been around for so long...
Had a mate in BJJ who was a black belt in Aikido, the wrist locks and shit do work but need to be executed with force. Helped that he was a solid 100kg :D

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Postby Edge Guerrero » Thu Jul 09, 2015 8:03 am

Som-Pong wrote:TMA works. Otherwise it wouldn't have been around for so long...
Had a mate in BJJ who was a black belt in Aikido, the wrist locks and shit do work but need to be executed with force. Helped that he was a solid 100kg :D


- Wristlocks work in a Gi usually on the ground, or stand when you grip on the gi, so the atrict makes dificult to take your hand off.











They are very dificult to pull without clothes to make atriction, and in mma there are the hand wraps and the gloves.

Canuckster wrote:Must be the fast twitch asian muscle fibers I've heard so much about.

I don't know much about inosanto, and I'm sure he could take care of himself, but unless he applies these techniques in direct combat, they are untested. I'm not saying he hasn't, I'm saying I don't think he has, he may be able to take out the average untrained or even trained street thug, but until he tests it in combat you can't say all his techniques are legit.


- Dan is one of the first Bruce Lee students and is a black-belt in several martial arts, like jiu-jitsu under the machado brothers.
We can say some of his techniques are legits, others are not. :mrgreen:

Masato wrote:^ really? All I saw was another demo in slow-motion.

That's the problem with these 'deadly' arts; how many hours (minutes?) do any of them train in REAL TIME? Boxers and MMA fighters spar every day, BJJ roll every day, they feel it as it is.

This guy was demoing strikes 1, 2, 3.. etc. But the dude was just staying there for him, frozen? Could he really connect with all 3 in a real scrap?

IMO the UFC really did prove a lot; when your opponent is actually coming at you and trying to win, good luck executing wristlocks etc. Miss that move, or get knocked over and watchagonnado?? (insert Hulkster photo)

Still a lively debate I'd say

Would be amazing to see someone doing Aikido/Bagua-style takedowns in MMA one day


- Comier pulled one takedown that looked like aikido, but was actually a wrestling movie.
I don't know if there are bagua competition, martial arts with competition are more eficient to combat, maybe we are gonna se a judoka with aikido background or a wrestler, but aikido itself is very long time to get a black-belt.

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Postby Som-Pong » Thu Jul 09, 2015 8:09 am

I've broken a few wrists. You're not looking for the tap or for control but just to yank that shit hard.

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Postby Edge Guerrero » Thu Jul 09, 2015 8:13 am

Som-Pong wrote:I've broken a few wrists. You're not looking for the tap or for control but just to yank that shit hard.


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