Masato wrote:Hey Dag - give us a synopsis of where you're at with this (I have fallen far behind)
Do you think there is ANYTHING fishy about SH, but just that this Halbig guy and other CT extremists have turned it into a farce?
Or has your research come to a point where the story might actually be basically legit?
you know, I'm gonna try & refrain from taking any side or angle. the only thing I'm sure of is that wolfgang is a charlatan & has no idea what he is doing. his "evidence" is laughable @ best (if it wasn't so disrespectful) and I honestly believe nobody can be stupid enough to go along with it w/o some hidden agenda. also, IMO, 99% sure it was no hoax. I have never heard one good piece of tangible evidence to support it. after that? pretty much went back to square one with all the lanza stuff. but since you asked, & it's a real good question, I'll do the best I can. where I'm @ right now, there is nothing but shades of grey. some very close to both black & white though.
I'd prob say 50/50 it was some kind of terror style attack or it happened as they say it did. & yeah, 50/50 is pretty much a cop out answer, but it eliminates both hoax & false flag (& I'm still an admitted conspiratard). I don't think this was another 9/11 gov't sponsored attack or one they had prior knowledge of & let happen. it doesn't fit the bill imo. those are generally reserved for building sentiment for war or other MAJOR advancements. sandy hook has accomplished nothing. even guns sales have been rising. that's not to say that this wasn't exploited for it, but that shouldn't surprise anyone.
I could very easily believe that it was a horrific, terror-style attack by whoever (I have no idea) which was covered up for national security reasons or something along those lines of thinking. maybe to quell the desired fear. little to no mention was ever made that there was a group taking credit for it arrested shortly after. that could very well be nothing, but there is enough evidence (imo) to question whether lanza even did this. weapon discrepancies, the jackets, car doors, eye witness accts, 911 calls, police radio chatter, etc. it is not beyond reasonable doubt imho, but I also try & understand the confusion of the moment. I think shit is covered up a lot more than we know. major shit, but this would have been impossible to completely cover up. hence the PR campaign & odd behaviors.
but none of that^ explains lanza.
which brings me to the other 50. if lanza did do this, was he alone? & I still wonder why? I do believe that is really his online activity & he wasn't the bumbling little kid that some hoaxers want people to believe he was. I myself sometimes forget that he was early 20's and rather intelligent with some very serious issues. who was the "acquaintance" he traded PMs with on the shockedbeyondbelief & supercolumbinemassacre forums? they sound like they had a pretty intimate relationship (no homo) & both talked about their fascination with mass murderers. I don't think I've ever heard one mention of that guy. could have been checked out & found insignificant though & that's why we never heard, but I think we all know that patsies have been coerced in the past. what better way than by combing some fucked up forums & looking for someone to push who just needed a nudge?
I still have a hard time with the motive being him wanting to go into the record books as a mass murderer, but that actually would explain him picking easy targets such as defenseless schoolchildren & female teachers in a gun free area. there is also a history of abuse @ his catholic school that can't be ignored.
but there is damage in that school that is inconsistent with what & who they say happened if I'm reading it right. & the FBI was around newtown for days after (not really that shocking) but they put the scare into some people (namely roy low) who instantly shut up. If you remember, roy was the guy on TV who said they arrested someone and put him in the front seat of the cop car. later described as the "off duty, tactical squad officer from another town". dressed in black jacket (like the jackets by the car?) and camo pants. why was he already in the woods that day? with a loaded gun? there is no hunting around schools. on a weekday morning. in a residential area. makes no sense.
anyway, thanks for asking. some people (winnson/EY/Dean) still don't get that calling out wolfgang & his hoaxtards for the gong show they're putting on or the harassment of the victims is not the same thing as defending the official story. I just can't comprehend that. it's so black or white with those guys it's not even funny. some real "freethinkers" over there. lol. I am almost convinced that EY is in bed with wolfgang somehow. he has made that pretty clear on the OG lately. it's like the blind leading the blind. It is everything that's wrong with the CT community nowadays in a microcosm imho.
as I go down whatever path it takes me, I'll be adding to this thread for a quick reference as things are getting interesting again. more on the wolfgang front than SH though. halbig has actually filed a lawsuit (lol) to pressure smaller "bloggers" to "stop snooping" & some have been forced to shut down. he also could be in trouble with how he has handled his donations, along with the lies & filing of sandyhookjustice. fuck that guy. I'd love for people to join in with whatever they believe. I don't have as much of a problem with hoaxers as I do with hoaxers who don't move on after evidence has been refuted. that's a true "hoaxtard" imo. & I don't have anymore time for lies & misinformation. deliberate or not..
anyway, thanks again for asking. I tried to keep it as short as I could. what do others think?