Male Hetero Sex Drive: Natural vs Conditioned?

[Masato]

Hey all

How much of the typical western male sex drive is NATURAL, and how much of it is CONDITIONED?

That is to say what % of our drive/lust is innate to the human being, vs how much of it is programmed by all the sex in ads, entertainment, porn, etc?

When a typical man thinks lustful thoughts, or objectifies a hot woman he sees in his mind, etc etc - is it possible to distinguish how much of this is a result of cultural programming? Would the same man have as horny a mind had he never been exposed to porn, sexy magazine covers, or titillating TV or advertising?

I am not sure I can even begin to answer the question

I really don't know. I think I would guess that a lot of it is conditioning, but unsure how much.

[Som-Pong]

Interesting, like yourself I think it's impossible to tell.

[Edge Guerrero]

Hey all

How much of the typical western male sex drive is NATURAL, and how much of it is CONDITIONED?

That is to say what % of our drive/lust is innate to the human being, vs how much of it is programmed by all the sex in ads, entertainment, porn, etc?

When a typical man thinks lustful thoughts, or objectifies a hot woman he sees in his mind, etc etc - is it possible to distinguish how much of this is a result of cultural programming? Would the same man have as horny a mind had he never been exposed to porn, sexy magazine covers, or titillating TV or advertising?

I am not sure I can even begin to answer the question

I really don't know. I think I would guess that a lot of it is conditioning, but unsure how much.

- He would be more, those type of programs make man indiferent to sex.
Watching to many porn make you less horny:

Porn’s allure and ubiquity isn’t exactly titillating news. The question that still remains, however, is how this tsunami of porn is affecting the libido of the American male or, more selfishly, mine. First I came across a post on Sanjay Gupta’s blog by Ian Kerner, a sexuality counselor, who wrote that he noticed a distinct rise in the number of men approaching him with concerns about delayed ejaculation. Kerner went on to attribute much of the problem to a “rapid proliferation of Internet porn” which leads to “over-masturbation,” something I’m very familiar with. Then I read about a University of Kansas study that found that 25 percent of college-age men said they’d faked orgasms, which, I’ll admit, was oddly comforting to hear. But it wasn’t until I interviewed dozens of men with varying porn-watching habits (and a few very open-minded women) that some unexpected themes began to emerge. Porn is not only shaping men’s physical and emotional interest in sex on a very fundamental neurological level, but it’s also having a series of unexpected ripple effects—namely on women.

For decades, hand-wringers have warned of a porn epidemic that would tear the nation’s moral fabric asunder. But if online porn has spread a sickness, it’s one that’s less like Ebola and more like a midwinter cold. The initial symptom for a lot of guys who frequently find themselves bookmarking their favorite illicit clips appears to be a waning desire for their partners. Jonas*, a 34-year-old ad exec, told me, “I get on SpankWire or X Videos—you could carve ice sculptures with my dick. I take a girl home from the bar, though, and I’ll be up for a minute while she’s going down on me, but once I put a condom on and we start going at it, it’s like the Challenger exploded—all the flags are at half-mast.”

Then there’s Stefan, a 43-year-old composer, who has no problem getting aroused when he has sex with his wife. “In order to come, though, I’ve got to resort to playing scenes in my head that I’ve seen while viewing porn. Something is lost there. I’m no longer with my wife; I’m inside my own head.”


http://nymag.com/news/features/70976/

:mrgreen:

It's just testosterone acting.

The article i posted is a little trolling, but it's serious you lose the sensibility to sex.

[Masato]

"you could carve ice sculptures with my dick."

lol

Good post, Edge. Kids are growing up with such easy access to porn, I wonder how if will affect society/generations over a long term. Or is it really much different than the days of magazines and pin-up girls?

[Som-Pong]

It is part of the emasculation process the elite is playing a long game.

[Edge Guerrero]

"you could carve ice sculptures with my dick."

lol

Good post, Edge. Kids are growing up with such easy access to porn, I wonder how if will affect society/generations over a long term. Or is it really much different than the days of magazines and pin-up girls?

- People had to used imagination a couple of decades ago.
I think guys that got addcted to magazines, sufered the same thing.

[Masato]

OK, maybe a more specific question is this:

How much of a typical hetero man's sex drive would exist without any external stimuli?

when you are working out on a lot all day, or on a long drive somewhere, and there are no women or sexy images around... how much sexual energy would be present? Might men in hardcore muslim countries have lower libido because they are not constantly triggered by images and women?

I just know that sometimes I am doing something where sex is furthest from my mind... then 1 little trigger image I see somewhere and BAM it triggers the potential for a whole cycle to manifest

I really do think there is some deep programming/conditioning at play, at least for western men. The amount of sexual imagery we see every single day, especially for those who watch a lot of TV, is staggering. Pavlovian levels, imo

Don't get me wrong, I am not knocking the male sex drive, or suggesting any priestly abstinence... only trying to realize what is real/pure and how much is just completely unconscious deeply programmed stimulus-reaction patterns