Aurora, CO Batman Shooting. Trial underway.

Daglord · Postby **Daglord** » Sun Jul 19, 2015 11:25 pm

^^^^^ that is a great video. especially part 2.

Timeline of Aurora shooting using the 3d model "shooter in the lobby" (set to 480p+ resolution!)

Spoiler:

holmes was reportedly arrested 90 secs after the first 911 call. almost (or completely) passed out. locked in his car. wearing body armor & gas mask. appeared to be oblivious to what was going on according to testimony. does all that seem possible within 3-5 mins in his state? I don't know.

who did the other gas mask, gear, duffel bag & blood found over a hundred yards away from holmes' car belong to? conveniently dropped when out of view of CCTV cameras outside the building? a straight shot from james' body/car & what appears to be a great location for a waiting car for quick exit to interstate? labeled "additional evidence and bood stains".

the "additional evidence and blood stains" referred to on the far side of that diagram^^^^^:

Plus the tactical gear that holmes allegedly took off before locking himself in his car:

How much gear does one guy need? how did it get thrown about in a pile over a hundred yards away? who was the guy who took the call & propped open the exit door? holmes? how were smoke bombs thrown from two different directions? how did this all happen in a little over 3-5 mins? what's with the duffel bag & additional gear? wasn't he still wearing his gear & mask when arrested? outside the car right? why the broken window & stretcher? was he almost asleep/drugged? what about all the eye witness accounts of two or more shooters? what about the people injured in theater 8? why were they still looking for additional "persons of interest" an hour after holmes was arrested? why was his mugshot taken 3 days later? how did he afford all that gear? why mail a notebook describing your plan to your doctor 2 weeks earlier? did he want to get caught? is the notebook even legit? what was his motive?

Daglord · Postby **Daglord** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:00 pm

TEMPORAL ILLUSIONS: JAMES HOLMES’ “MENTOR” ADMITS TO MIND MANIPULATION

Spoiler:

John Jacobson, the person James Holmes named as his “mentor” during his science camp presentation on “temporal illusions” and “subjective experience” [1], can be seen in a video discussing the manipulation of a subject’s order of time perception. [2]

At 1.58 in Jacobson says:

“… it’s possible… for us to manipulate temporal order, we have loads of power over temporal order, if events happen in the order A/B, a good psycho-physicist can have the subject experience it as B/A, this is routine…”

So the accused Batman shooter, who appeared drugged out of his mind during his first court appearance, and the District Attorney later said she had “no information” on whether Holmes was on medication in court [3], is closely associated to a boastful mind manipulator.

But this gets much more interesting…

John Jacobson now completely denies being James Holmes’ ”mentor”, in fact he outright attacks every aspect of James Holmes life [4], from Holmes’ ability to do Flash programming as an intern (who would even dream that Flash programming abilities would be grounds to condemn the academic career of an honors graduate and prestigious grant winner [5] ), to claiming Holmes’ didn’t seem to understand “any of the basic science” [6], to claiming Holmes “just had no interest” in a high school girl Jacobson introduced. [4]

Read the LA Times article below to get a real sense of the tone.

Finally, to top this story off, ABC News has been caught lying, I mean misspeaking, about what the mother Arlene Holmes originally said, the well publicized and over repeated “you have the right person” quote… Mrs. Holmes was simply referring to herself. This strange and illogical quote was suspect from the very start, but it was repeated, wild details were added to it, but it has no basis in fact.

With all the crack reporting from organizations like ABC News, no one seems to ask the basic question, how exactly did the shooter get in through a closed fire exit door?

Are we to believe he arrive early, set the door ajar, went off to gear up, then returned later without the certainty the door would still be ajar… or perhaps we’re to imagine the shooter arriving at the closed exit door in full gear, gas mask on, not knowing if he could open the door… or perhaps he had some help?

references:

Spoiler:

Masato · Postby **Masato** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:01 pm

I am going through this thread, Daglord... watched a few of the vids today

Thanks TONS, this is a fascinating case

Was it confirmed that his Dad was set to testify in the LIBOR case?
I remember when that came out but heard other rumors that it wasn't true

Daglord · Postby **Daglord** » Tue Jul 21, 2015 2:47 am

Masato wrote:I am going through this thread, Daglord... watched a few of the vids today

Thanks TONS, this is a fascinating case

Was it confirmed that his Dad was set to testify in the LIBOR case?
I remember when that came out but heard other rumors that it wasn't true

I don't think that LIBOR rumor was true. the only thing that connected him to the trial was an article traced back to sorcha faal & everything sourced from there. they said the same thing about lanza's dad.

Daglord · Postby **Daglord** » Thu Jul 23, 2015 7:35 pm

Edge Guerrero · Postby **Edge Guerrero** » Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:36 pm

- Did the shooter have some training?

Daglord · Postby **Daglord** » Thu Jul 23, 2015 11:55 pm

Edge Guerrero wrote:- Did the shooter have some training?

none that I am aware of. that is what is so crazy about it. he reportedly applied @ to join a shooting range about a month before the shooting, but never returned the calls of the range when they tried to get ahold of him. so no training that I know of. as far how he afforded all the gear, guns & ammo, he did receive a $20K grant a few years back. not sure if that's what it was used for, but that is a huge question. how did he afford it & how did he acquire it? I think I remember reading somewhere that the ammunition he ordered was delivered to the university of CO, where he had dropped out weeks before. odd.

Two months before neuroscience student James Eagan Holmes allegedly shot 71 moviegoers, killing at least 12, at a midnight showing of The Dark Knight Rises in Aurora, Colo., he stopped by Gander Mountain, an outdoor shop that sells guns and ammunition, and bought a Glock 40 pistol. Over that eight-week period, according to a local law-enforcement source who spoke on the condition of anonymity, he purchased four more weapons, including a shotgun and an assault rifle from different gun shops around Aurora and Denver—and 6,000 rounds of ammunition from the Internet.

that is a lot of time & money invested & didn't that fly any red flags? In addition, I don't see anything anywhere that would have caused him to "snap". it's like he suddenly started buying weapons & starting plotting mass murder out of nowhere. makes no sense. he appeared to be a very sharp kid, good upbringing, no abuse, bright future, social, etc. this appears to have been completely out of character.

then you have the booby trapped apartment, so complex the FBI took 2 days to disarm it. he had no previous bomb building experience or a history of research on it. & where did he get those materials? after going through all that trouble to set the place up for detonation, why did he tell the police upon capture it was rigged to blow? defeats the whole purpose doesn't it?

THIS IS A GREAT 4 MINS. a few in the MSM were even questioning the narrative @ the time & calling out others for not doing so. prob why swanson isn't @ FOX anymore.

Daglord · Postby **Daglord** » Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:57 pm

Aurora Shooting: Colorado Theater Lacked Uniformed Security Guards On Night Of Massacre
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/29/aurora-shooting-theater-lacked-security_n_1717480.html

DENVER -- The Colorado movie theater complex that was the scene of a gunman's massacre this month didn't have any uniformed security guards on duty the night of the shooting, even though other theaters operated by the same company did provide such protection for the busy premiere of the Batman film "The Dark Knight Rises."

Aurora theater lacked security on night of Batman shootings
http://www.rt.com/usa/aurora-theater-shooting-security-359/

If a crowded opening night wasn’t enough of a reason to provide guards, then a recent warning by the US Department of Homeland Security should have been taken into consideration. The DHS sent out a nationwide warning to police and other emergency personnel that theaters were potentially attractive targets for terrorists.

“Terrorists may seek to emulate overseas attacks on theaters here in the United States because they have the potential to inflict mass casualties and cause local economic damage,” the May 17 DHS report read.

Edge Guerrero · Postby **Edge Guerrero** » Fri Jul 24, 2015 1:33 pm

Daglord wrote:
Edge Guerrero wrote:- Did the shooter have some training?

none that I am aware of. that is what is so crazy about it. he reportedly applied @ to join a shooting range about a month before the shooting, but never returned the calls of the range when they tried to get ahold of him. so no training that I know of. as far how he afforded all the gear, guns & ammo, he did receive a $20K grant a few years back. not sure if that's what it was used for, but that is a huge question. how did he afford it & how did he acquire it? I think I remember reading somewhere that the ammunition he ordered was delivered to the university of CO, where he had dropped out weeks before. odd.

- But he could easily get sometone to teach him right? Maybe the shooting Range was a ploy that he tought before, that way people would question the suposed randomenss of his act?

Two months before neuroscience student James Eagan Holmes allegedly shot 71 moviegoers, killing at least 12, at a midnight showing of The Dark Knight Rises in Aurora, Colo., he stopped by Gander Mountain, an outdoor shop that sells guns and ammunition, and bought a Glock 40 pistol. Over that eight-week period, according to a local law-enforcement source who spoke on the condition of anonymity, he purchased four more weapons, including a shotgun and an assault rifle from different gun shops around Aurora and Denver—and 6,000 rounds of ammunition from the Internet.

- How they sell weapons to someone that didn't had any training? I tought training was needed before trying to aquire a gun.

that is a lot of time & money invested & didn't that fly any red flags? In addition, I don't see anything anywhere that would have caused him to "snap". it's like he suddenly started buying weapons & starting plotting mass murder out of nowhere. makes no sense. he appeared to be a very sharp kid, good upbringing, no abuse, bright future, social, etc. this appears to have been completely out of character.

- Or he was smart and was playing a character all the time, and that was all premedited, or someone did that to him.

then you have the booby trapped apartment, so complex the FBI took 2 days to disarm it. he had no previous bomb building experience or a history of research on it. & where did he get those materials? after going through all that trouble to set the place up for detonation, why did he tell the police upon capture it was rigged to blow? defeats the whole purpose doesn't it?

THIS IS A GREAT 4 MINS. a few in the MSM were even questioning the narrative @ the time & calling out others for not doing so. prob why swanson isn't @ FOX anymore.

Daglord · Postby **Daglord** » Sat Jul 25, 2015 12:37 am

Edge Guerrero wrote: - But he could easily get sometone to teach him right? Maybe the shooting Range was a ploy that he tought before, that way people would question the suposed randomenss of his act?

yeah. probably. anyone can pick up an handgun, it's the AR-15, shotgun & all the ammo that surprises me. there were supposedly a lot of jams & wasted ammo so there is that. the explosives are what intrigues me the most. IIRC, it was a pretty complex set up for someone with no training or apparent interest in demolitions.

- How they sell weapons to someone that didn't had any training? I tought training was needed before trying to aquire a gun.

In colorado, background check is all that is necessary. but in the day & age of the NSA, wouldn't some young kid going around town purchasing a small arsenal & enough ammo online for a small army raise a few red flags? and the money that would cost? & some of that stuff wasn't the kind of gear you walk in to your local gander mountain & buy over the counter. I could be wrong, but seems like overkill for a struggling college student.

- Or he was smart and was playing a character all the time, and that was all premedited, or someone did that to him.

that is a great point. a theory is that he was the joker, someone else played bane & the shooter was batman. perfect night to pull this off because people dress up for premiers. all you need is someone to let you in through the exit after you have passed through security.

but that particular theater didn't have security scheduled that night, despite others owned by the same company doing so for such a huge premier & expected crowd.

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