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[Edge Guerrero]

He used to wrestle on the Atlantic Gran Prix circuit when my grandma got me into wrassling! I was just a little kid.

I met him once crossing the Ferry to PEI or Nova Scotia and another time when he was buying toothpaste in a drugstore in Halifax.

He was big then, but no where near as big as he was when he was with the WWF. That dude was one of my boyhood heroes and I was blown away when he hit the big time!

Ohhh Yeah!

- Wrestling business was unfair to guys like Randy Savage, Shawn Michaels, Kurt Angle, Bret Hart or Eddie Guerrero.
People wanted wrestlers to be giant muscular like comic-book characters, it's was like wrestling ability was secundary, so wrestlers abused steroids, put a unhealthy amount of muscle on their frame.
Savage was a amazing performer.
Complet package.(Unlike Hogan)

But to be fair, i love the way guys like Hogan, Macho-man, The Rock or The Miz talk.
So over the top. :mrgreen:

[Anti D]

RIP Elizabeth indeed.

Btw, I used to go to this deep/garage house club in Toronto where Trish Stratus and that Asian WWE chick bartended before they got into the WWE. It was so surreal seeing them on Monday Night Raw! Fuark!

No surprise to see The Diet butcher name dropping as usual. What's next son you going to tell us you sipped champagne with Paris Hilton?

[Anti D]

Edge who do you think was the best at cutting a Promo in Pro-Wrestling history? Where does CM punk rank among the Greats?

[Edge Guerrero]

Edge who do you think was the best at cutting a Promo in Pro-Wrestling history? Where does CM punk rank among the Greats?

- I think i would go with Shawn Michaels as the best at cutting a promo, he was a very good actor:

I don't know how i would rank Punk, because i honestly believe that Christian is better than Punk was, in the ring or on the mic.

Punk was good, but far from the best, he did had nice come-backs, but some better guys got less mic-time to shine.

Christian:





I think Christian squares with the best wrestlers ever in any requisite, he is superior to many of the best in ring skills, but his promos were on par with the best, Triple H or Shawn Michaels, Christian is on that level but never got the spotlight.
He can work as a hell and as a face, a thing that Edge and many others cound't pull.

Edge:



Triple H:



Another very-good one is Cody Rhodes, very good in the ring, and i think that in some years he will be the face of the company, he can make any wrestler look good.

Bray Wyatt is very-good at promos today and i love his real life brother Bo Dallas work as a annoying hell.

Punk is the equivalent to Nick Cage, get's a oscar, but Leo Dicaprio or Brad Pitt are better actors without getting one. :ugeek:

[Edge Guerrero]

Edge who do you think was the best at cutting a Promo in Pro-Wrestling history? Where does CM punk rank among the Greats?

- Btw, that promo gave-me goosebumps when he talked about Chris Masters, i tought they would bring Masters back.
Master is a very-good in ring worker and story-teller, when watching him wrestling or someone like Mark henry, they actually make the match looks like a fight.

Sadly they were stupid enought to let Master go:



Drew was another amazing talent those idiots fired. :(

[Anti D]

Thanks for the response Edge! I made this thread because it was an inside joke from a long time ago about Vutulaki and myself but it has piqued my interest. I have been checking out tons of "shoot" interviews and old school ECW matches from the mid 90's that have brought back lots of Nostalgia. I remember the first time i saw ECW late one night and was blown away as a 14 year old. There was somethign so raw about what I was seeing especially compared to the PG type of atmosphere that was going on with the struggling WWE.

I stopped watching wrestling around the time that the WCW started going downhill after beating the WWE with their 'nWo' angle after winning the ratings wars two years straight. This was right before the WWE revival with Stone Cold (Attitude Era)I think around 1998 so I had only heard about CM Punk and the Edge's, Christians and Test's of the world.

I guess I just lost interest and got into a few other things and never went back. There is probably something going on with the WWE being basically the only show in town that is similar to the UFC and Pride. Competition forces companies to put out a better product. something about that rivalry kept me interested which I'm sure is the same for a few mma fans.

I only mention CM punk because I have watching more UFC recently and saw where the fan challenged him. This combined with all the wrestling vids I have been checking led to watching his stuff. I really enjoyed his style of come-backs. Reminded me a little of myself at times only I am bigger, stronger, better looking and have better come backs. Some would even say they are acid tongued truth bombs hidden under the veneer of comedy. The awesome thing is all promos with him and Triple H were very real with them having animosity towards each other IRL which became apparent with CM punk leaving. I highly doubt that they would take a troll this far but I guess we will see find out depending on how CM punk does in the UFC. Although money can make people forget about past problems and issues real fast.

[Anti D]

I forgot how acidic and cutting Jim Cornette was. Damn he is brutal ripping everything in his path to shreds. I really enjoy his "shoot" videos along with Raven (who was another psychological talker like Punk) and even Bam Bam Bigelow.

Then you have the Perry Saturn and New Jack "shoot" videos and while those guys are not as smart as the Punk's of the world it is still entertaining about how crazy it was at times behind the scenes.

Cornette shreds TNA and Dixie Carter. Damn Son.



Lots of good ones but this is pretty funny and at a time when the WWF was struggling.

[Edge Guerrero]

I guess I just lost interest and got into a few other things and never went back. There is probably something going on with the WWE being basically the only show in town that is similar to the UFC and Pride. Competition forces companies to put out a better product. something about that rivalry kept me interested which I'm sure is the same for a few mma fans.

- Sady is that Wwwe has and has had several very-talented pro-wrestlers that got wasted away, Chris Masters, Drew Mcytire, Tyler Reks were let go, and they have on the org, Zack Ryder that is very good, Damien Sandown, Mark Henry floating aroud, so many good guys, they have competition in Tna, but i think that executives that never watched or cared about pw wan't to control the product so much.

THere are Ring of Honor that has a new tv deal, Lucha Libre Underground that is a very diferent take on pro-wrestling, and New Japan Pro-wrestling is getting a major international deal, i think that Cmll is gonna get a good deal too.

Lucha Underground:



Cmll:

- And some people think that a guy throwing a ball on a hoop is incredible. :mrgreen:





I only mention CM punk because I have watching more UFC recently and saw where the fan challenged him. This combined with all the wrestling vids I have been checking led to watching his stuff. I really enjoyed his style of come-backs. Reminded me a little of myself at times only I am bigger, stronger, better looking and have better come backs. Some would even say they are acid tongued truth bombs hidden under the veneer of comedy. The awesome thing is all promos with him and Triple H were very real with them having animosity towards each other IRL which became apparent with CM punk leaving. I highly doubt that they would take a troll this far but I guess we will see find out depending on how CM punk does in the UFC. Although money can make people forget about past problems and issues real fast.

- I've saw that vid, and Punk come-back was really good indeed, with the Troy Mclure reference. punk owned the guy. The guy ressorted to Connor level of promo-skills, i got your sister, ask her.

[Anti D]

- Sady is that Wwwe has and has had several very-talented pro-wrestlers that got wasted away, Chris Masters, Drew Mcytire, Tyler Reks were let go, and they have on the org, Zack Ryder that is very good, Damien Sandown, Mark Henry floating aroud, so many good guys, they have competition in Tna, but i think that executives that never watched or cared about pw wan't to control the product so much.

Nice information Edge. If you watch that 1997 Promo vid with Cornette he touches on EXACTLY what you are saying here. I wonder what most of the stories are with these guys. Is it the drug testing policy? Bad executive decisions or Vince's ego that seems to always come first before everything. I'm starting to think Vince and EVILYOSHIDA are the same person. Raven talks about Vince's ego and WWE hiring starss form the regional promotions just to destroy them here. What ever happened to Chris Jericho? Great technical wrestler who I did see was an amazing speaker and was pretty popular during his WWE run.

THere are Ring of Honor that has a new tv deal, Lucha Libre Underground that is a very diferent take on pro-wrestling, and New Japan Pro-wrestling is getting a major international deal, i think that Cmll is gonna get a good deal too.

I told you in a rep I used to watch a few of those guys in the old WCW days. La Parka, Psychosis, Rey Mysterio and of course the legendary superCalo. Those guys were always very technical along with the Dean Malenko's and Lance Storm's and Chris Benoit's of the world. WCW was more catered to the "technical" wrestling fan I guess. Lot of people were devastated when they went away because WWE was more about Gimmicks at the time.I had no idea that one day I would be posting on an obscure forum with the same wrestler I followed growing up in the great superCalo.



Yeah but ECW for a regional scene in Philly was huge. People would chant "ECW" at WCW and WWE show around the country whenever things became "extreme." The same could be said about WCW and their NWO gimmick. I remember going to a WWE's in your house PPV in West Palm Beach and the people were chanting "nWo, nWo, nWo" during the entire show. i think this is when the WWE realized they were in trouble an had to do something. Neither of those other organizations have given the WWE any fear that I know of.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Your_House_12:_It%27s_Time

You can actually see a young Anti D for a split second at the end climbing on Psych Sid's (Sid Justice/Sid Vicious) back after his match with Bret Hart. I went to one other one as a kid but can't remember anything about it. After the show everyone was watching the wrestlers leave and Shawn Michaels was a huge asshole and almost ran a few of us over. Many people kicked and spit on his car because of this. I have heard in interviews he was a real dick behind the scenes and rubbed many people the wrong way. They mention he had a huge pain pill problem and I know first hand how that will make people into bigger assholes than they already are. Lost many great friends because of this "disease" or "lifestyle choice" depending on how you look at it.

- I've saw that vid, and Punk come-back was really good indeed, with the Troy Mclure reference. punk owned the guy. The guy ressorted to Connor level of promo-skills, i got your sister, ask her.

Loved the McClure reference! I was a huge Simpsons fan growing up. RIP Phil Hartman. Yeah not really sure what that guy was trying to prove their but It was almost like Punk almost felt sorry for him with how stupid he looked. I feel the same way when I respond to Som-Pong at times. Sometimes you know that your opponent whether it is physically or mentally has nothing for you. I get this feeling every time I read a Som-Pong post. Chael really impressed me with his talking abilities. Didn't I just hear that he is trying to break into the Wrestling business?

[Edge Guerrero]

Nice information Edge. If you watch that 1997 Promo vid with Cornette he touches on EXACTLY what you are saying here. I wonder what most of the stories are with these guys. Is it the drug testing policy? Bad executive decisions or Vince's ego that seems to always come first before everything. I'm starting to think Vince and EVILYOSHIDA are the same person. Raven talks about Vince's ego and WWE hiring starss form the regional promotions just to destroy them here. What ever happened to Chris Jericho? Great technical wrestler who I did see was an amazing speaker and was pretty popular during his WWE run.
- Vince is out of touch of what constitute a good pro-wrestling show, Triple H is getting in charge, and he really knows and loves pro-wrestling, Try to watch some of the NXT special if you can, really good-wrestling.



I told you in a rep I used to watch a few of those guys in the old WCW days. La Parka, Psychosis, Rey Mysterio and of course the legendary superCalo. Those guys were always very technical along with the Dean Malenko's and Lance Storm's and Chris Benoit's of the world. WCW was more catered to the "technical" wrestling fan I guess. Lot of people were devastated when they went away because WWE was more about Gimmicks at the time.I had no idea that one day I would be posting on an obscure forum with the same wrestler I followed growing up in the great superCalo.

- They say that WCW hired a lot of lazy workers, so to compesate they created the Cruse-weight division, that they didn't respected and some time used the guys that were far better wrestlers as jobbers. That's why the guys jumped ship to Wwe, sadly Wwe droped the ball with the cruse-weights.



You can actually see a young Anti D for a split second at the end climbing on Psych Sid's (Sid Justice/Sid Vicious) back after his match with Bret Hart. I went to one other one as a kid but can't remember anything about it. After the show everyone was watching the wrestlers leave and Shawn Michaels was a huge asshole and almost ran a few of us over. Many people kicked and spit on his car because of this. I have heard in interviews he was a real dick behind the scenes and rubbed many people the wrong way. They mention he had a huge pain pill problem and I know first hand how that will make people into bigger assholes than they already are. Lost many great friends because of this "disease" or "lifestyle choice" depending on how you look at it.

- Michaels was a know jerk backstage, he cound make any wrestler look amazing, but only if he wanted, Triple H was always more level headed and fair, so when they become friends, it's was good for Michaels that gave us so many good matchs after the end of the Kliq, and for the good of Wwe. Would love to go to a wrestling show someday. Good to you to have that memory.


Loved the McClure reference! I was a huge Simpsons fan growing up. RIP Phil Hartman. Yeah not really sure what that guy was trying to prove their but It was almost like Punk almost felt sorry for him with how stupid he looked. I feel the same way when I respond to Som-Pong at times. Sometimes you know that your opponent whether it is physically or mentally has nothing for you. I get this feeling every time I read a Som-Pong post. Chael really impressed me with his talking abilities. Didn't I just hear that he is trying to break into the Wrestling business?

- masato posted his debut on the supe-dojo, Chael is a comentator for Global Force wrestling, he was good at the mick and really smart, problem with Chael, Frank Mir or Michael Bisping is that they respect the inteligence of the fans and think they are gonna get that is all a joke.

- I still love Simpsons, except Bart, the worst character on the show. :mrgreen: