Vester Flanagan (Bryce Williams) alleged manifesto

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Vester Flanagan (Bryce Williams) alleged manifesto

Postby Daglord » Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:20 am

video here (4 later): http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/Exclusive-Peek-Inside-Virginia-Shooters-Apartment-Vester-Flanagan-323160061.html

more (& larger) pics @ link.

Revealed: Soulless interior of TV killer Vester Flanagan's apartment where the only decorations are modelling shots of HIM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3213766/Soulless-interior-TV-killer-Vester-Flanagan-s-apartment-decorations-modelling-shots-HIM.html#comments

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A bare mattress on a stark bed frame, a dingy living room kitted out with black and cream furniture, and not a single splash of color save for a few Post-Its near the computer.

This is just a glimpse inside the world of deranged killer Vester Flanagan after reporters gained access to his sparse apartment this afternoon. Situated just blocks from the offices of WDBJ-TV, the apartment is startlingly empty, with almost no home comforts or decorations - save for some pictures of himself in his thinner, younger days.

It is perhaps a telling insight into the life of the narcissistic killer, who not only planned his attack to take place on live TV, but even filmed it before broadcasting it to the world via Twitter.

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The fact that all of the images feature a toned, muscular Flanagan perhaps speak to body confidence issues that he may have acquired in later life.

He certainly seems to have had a preoccupation with weight, telling cameraman Adam Ward, who he would later shoot dead, to 'lose your big gut' as Ward filmed him being fired from WDBJ in 2013. And now new footage has emerged from recent years showing Flanagan verbally abusing a motorist after he criticized Flanagan's driving. As the argument between the two men becomes heated, Flanagan tells the man 'you need to lose some weight, sir.' That is despite the fact that recent images of Flanagan, who was 41 when he shot himself yesterday, show he had gained a large amount of weight since his younger years.






The only other splash of color in an otherwise monochrome apartment is a large collection of bright tea-lights and candle jars next to his bathroom sink, and sat in front of his computer.

The computer itself has also been opened at the side and has wires trailing from the side, perhaps suggesting that part of the interior had been removed before Flanagan left to carry out his attack.

In fact, the flat is so sparsely furnished that the chair pulled up in front of Flanagan's computer is actually a cheap plastic chair that might be more likely to be found in a yard. There also appears to be no evidence in the flat of two cats Flanagan was said to have owned.

In his manifesto he spoke of how his anger at perceived racial slights he had suffered, along with the Charleston church shootings, had forced him to kill the animals. According to an unnamed source, when police raided his apartment after yesterday's horror unfolded the found the door smeared with cat feces and the carpets inside soaked in their urine.

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According to neighbors, Flanagan was often seen throwing their feces from the balcony. Elsewhere in the apartment officers removed two sex toys with evidence that they had been used. The 12 inch rubber sex toys were both black, sources said.

Flanagan grew up in Oakland, California, where he attended high school, but appears to have largely cut ties with the West Coast several years ago after moving to Virginia.

There are no images of family or friends around his apartment, and when Mail Online spoke to his relatives today, they seemed not to know much about Flanagan's life in recent years. Guynell Flanagan, the killer's cousin, said the last time she had seen Vester was in 2013 when he visited for Thanksgiving dinner. A former prom date of Flanagan's from high school also said that none of his former friends had known he moved east, or that he was going under the name Bryce Williams. Lorah Joe, from Burbank, said the Flanagan she had known had been 'kind' and 'a gentleman', and said she was having trouble matching her memories of him with his actions yesterday.

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At 6.45am in Moneta, a small town in Virginia, Flanagan approached two reporters from WDBJ, a station where he had previously worked, before drawing a semi-automatic Glock pistol. While filming the attack on his phone, he gunned down and killed cameraman Adam Ward, 27, before also cutting down reporter Alison Parker, 24, as she fled.

Vicki Gardner, a local woman being interviewed at the time, was also shot but survived and is now awake after being treated in hospital.

Flanagan then fled the scene in his car before exchanging it for a rental vehicle in which he had hidden extra licence plates, a wig, dark glasses and assorted other supplies.

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He was also carrying several magazines of extra ammunition, suggesting he planned to go into hiding and carry out further attacks before police closed in on him.

In his final moments, Flanagan broadcast a grisly video of the killings on his Twitter page, sent a 23-page suicide note to a national news channel, then shot himself. He died later in hospital. In the note, he detailed perceived racial bias he had suffered while working at WDBJ alongside Parker and Ward, giving a possible motive for the killings.

It has since emerged that Flanagan was fired from the station in 2013 for poor performance and threatening behavior towards fellow staff. When he was eventually sacked he had to be escorted from the building by police, while warning a news editor that he was going to 'make headlines' out of the incident.

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Postby Daglord » Thu Sep 03, 2015 2:50 pm

WDBJ Virginia Shooting: Hoax Theories Debunked
http://wideshut.co.uk/wdbj-virginia-shooting-hoax-theories-debunked/






Within minutes of news breaking that a young reporter and her cameraman were shot dead in Virginia, social media users were decrying the apparent tragedy a hoax – They’re Wrong

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I don’t say that out of hand. I watched Alison Parker, Adam Ward and interviewee Vicki Gardner stand within feet of the killer like everyone else, baffled that they never even saw him brandishing a gun. However my immediate response to this anomaly wasn’t to call it a “Freemason-Illuminati Media Hoax” and begin mocking the apparent victims. It was to sit back, analyse the footage and wonder whether there are any reasonable explanations for the way the shooting went down.

There are, and I’m going to share them.

… You may find the following material graphic and insensitive. Reader discretion is advised!

Why Did They Not See The Shooter?

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There’s several layers to this question, starting with the possibility that Parker and Gardner did see the shooter (named as Vester Flanagan). Truthers who only deal with black and white will say that this means they were all acting. What they fail to consider is that despite seeing him at some point, it doesn’t mean they saw his gun or understood his intentions. The person we know didn’t see him was Adam Ward, who was busy panning his camera across the scenery below before settling on the two women.

Let’s get one thing straight, this was a live TV broadcast. Parker as a professional will have experienced the presence of bystanders during filming many times, her job is essentially to ignore them, especially if they are close enough to cause a distraction. Her sole focus is her interview subject, not a man she would have no fathomable way of knowing was about to shoot her. If she recognized the man as Flanagan, that’s even more reason to keep composure and ensure he doesn’t ruin the broadcast.

Ask yourself an honest question. How many times have you walked down a street, sat on a train, or been in a waiting room and completely ignored the person right next to you? Sure, you know they’re there, but you may only glance at them a couple of times, regardless of how loud they’re sneezing or how frantically they’re rummaging through their bag. Humans are pretty good at zoning out their surroundings, especially when they’re focussed on a specific task. Ever played a video game and completely ignored somebody standing next to the TV?

To illustrate this directly, how many times have you seen a public news broadcast where people are darting all over the place, or even deliberately trying to be a nuisance, but the reporter remains focussed on their job? Every time, because that’s what they do.

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What’s seemingly tragic about the footage from the shooter’s perspective is that there does seem to be a split second that Parker notices him, but this is before he pulls out the gun, and she immediately goes back to Gardner. By time the gun is out she is being asked a question and is also focussed on the interview. Her head is also turned away from Flanagan.

He then lowers the weapon and moves back behind Ward, choosing to open fire when the women are in the TV camera’s view. Some may say this itself is suspicious, but we can already deduce that he was there to make an impact. If he wasn’t, he’d have killed Parker on the quiet. So ensuring this went out live simply fits the MO of a narcissist killer. He had his own camera to capture his crime!

That being said we don’t know what was going through his mind, he could have just as easily been panicking, stepping forward and then stepping back as he internally jostled with what he was about to do. Assuming they’re all actors is to brush aside the complexities of human behaviour.

So why did Parker and Gardner not see him? It seems they probably did, but it was only momentarily as they were focussed on the task at hand, and it’s not like they would have been alert and looking out for a gunman that morning anyway.

Is The Shooter’s Hand White?

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This is one of those “you see what you want to see” situations. As a white guy with peachy coloured skin, it doesn’t seem like the hand in the shooter’s footage is Caucasian to me. It’s certainly light, perhaps from a tanned white guy or Mexican, but the pigmentation is also 100% in-line with that of an African American. Looking at Flanagan’s hands and general complexion in other images tells us all we need to know about this silly claim.

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And let’s face it, if this was a set-up to frame a black guy, the hoaxers would probably use a black guy!

Oh, like the black guy caught on the news camera for a split second:

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Is The Shooter Wearing Black or Blue?

This is another one of those illogical and absolutist points that the truthers haven’t fully considered. It stems from comparing the blue sleeve we see from the shooter’s perspective to the brief clip of the shooter from the news camera’s perspective, which is after he’s started firing and has walked in to the darker roofed area.

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In some versions of the clip and screencap the clothing looks very dark, close to black (although not jet black), in others he’s clearly wearing blue and there’s nothing suspicious about it at all. We can logically conclude that this is just the contrast between the two cameras and the change in lighting, and the various differences in quality and format as the clips have made their way online

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To play devil’s advocate, why would they make all of these so called continuity errors if it was staged?

There’s No Blood, How Did She Run?

First of all this isn’t a video game or a horror film, so don’t expect blood to be squirting at the cameras. Secondly we don’t really know where Parker was hit or even if she was hit by those initial 3 bullets. They could have grazed her, they could have hit her where it wouldn’t have immediately immobilized the body. People do run when they’ve been shot and their flight mode has kicked in. If they didn’t there would be no such thing as shooting survivors would there?

Reports suggest Flanagan was using a Glock 19, a small 9mm handgun, not much different from what is used by police officers, citizens and criminals across the world. In reviewing numerous videos of real life shootings online, the vast majority show no visible blood spatter and many victims run after being hit. Here’s a sample (some gifs were removed due to bandwidth issues but by all means go and do your own research).

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So is it possible that she could have been hit without any immediate sign of blood or injury, and run off? Absolutely. It’s also worth mentioning that her black and red clothing are not the best of colours if the goal is to spot fresh wounds within 2 seconds, from less than perfect video footage.

Likewise most shooting videos also don’t seem to pick up the presence of shell casings, so there’s nothing unique about that either. Remember we’re seeing the shots from the shooter’s perspective. Shell casings often fly behind, to the feet, or to either side of the shooter. There’s no reason why we should see them pinging out in front of the camera. We also don’t see the bullet flying through the air. The camera may simply not be running at a frame rate high enough to capture shell casings being discharged.

Nonetheless in the higher quality uploads of the news camera’s perspective we do actually see what looks like shell casings, and is that blood on the floor as well.

The Shots …

Let’s analyse each shot. The shooter emerges from behind the cameraman, so he’s at an awkward angle to begin with, he may even be holding his own camera in his left hand, reducing his precision. Ever tried doing two things at once? Furthermore he’s wobbling all over the place and is not very good at handling the recoil.

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Each image below is exactly at the point where the bullet leaves the gun. Judging from the angles, it is therefore also quite plausible that each bullet narrowly missed her and there would be no wound to even see.

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Shot 1 may have passed just in front of her, though she does seem to hunch her shoulders and draw her right hand to her abdomen. Since she’s wearing red and pulls her hand there immediately, and the shooter’s own hand is obscuring the area, would we see the wound?

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Shot 2 also looks like it may have just passed in front of her. Those looking for blood should again realise that at this point the shooter’s hand fully obscures the trajectory of the bullet and she has already started to turn

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Shot 3 is in the top right corner of the image and looks to have narrowly missed her head, though if it connected we can’t tell as she is already out of view and proceeds to make 3 steps before the shooter drops or conceals his camera.

At this point there is no more footage, we only hear the chilling screams and a further hail of gunfire.

To conclude it’s highly likely that he simply missed the first three shots, or if one or two did connect (See: possible blood from news camera’s perspective) the immediate wounds are obscured in the shooter’s video. It seems he then caught up with her to finish the job.

We’re still waiting on the official word, but reports say both Parker and Ward suffered fatal head shots according to the Medical Examiner, while Gardner survived after surgery.

This is where Parker’s body was found. She nearly made it to the door at the end of the walkway:

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Did The Boyfriend Tweet Before The Shooting?

Whenever these kinds of events happen somebody always seems to find at least one social media posting that was supposedly made before the incident took place, implying a conspirator jumped the gun on their “script.” This makes little sense. Why on earth would anybody carrying out a black-op be dumb enough to post a message to the world before confirmation? And why would it happen on every single occasion truthers claim a false flag took place? Perhaps it really reflects their own repeated errors in judgement?

What we’re most likely witnessing is a combination of fake screenshots and people misunderstanding how timestamps work on social media.

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On Twitter whatever time zone you are in is reflected in the time you see under the Tweet. When I view the boyfriend Chris Hurst’s Tweet it reads 2:34pm, which is London time (GMT). Eastern Time (the time zone of Virginia) is 5 hours behind, so it was posted at 9:34am, almost 3 hours after the shooting, which took place at around 6:46am Eastern

https://twitter.com/chrishurstwdbj/status/636532144966365184

This doesn’t mean the Tweet was posted some 12 minutes earlier as suggested. It means whoever viewed the Tweet and took the screenshot was in a different timezone.

The West Coast (California etc) is 3 hours behind the East Coast on Pacific Time (PDT). At 9:34am ET any State on PDT would be at 6:34am.

So assuming the image isn’t just a photoshop, whoever screencapped it was simply on the other side of the country!

Was The Incident Really Live?

The shooting was broadcast live on local Roanoke, Virginia news show, WDBJ 7. This is evidenced by the 6:46am timestamp of the live feed. The station’s current graphics setup with the ticker and logos etc, always has the timestamp on the right hand side.

We see it during the broadcast and when it cuts back to studio:

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From the image of the shooter:

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The time is always on the right.

Some unscrupulous truther called The Black Child has cropped an image of the shooter from a DVR recorded version of the broadcast and used the left hand side start time of the show, to claim the footage was really filmed at 6am. We know he’s being disingenuous because he doesn’t show the full screen, where we would see the live feed time on the right hand side where it’s always located.

http://wideshut.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/virginia-shooting-hoax.jpeg

If the conspirators were going to pre-record the shooting, wouldn’t they do it well in advance to ensure everything was perfect, not just 46 minutes before it would be shown live?

Is There A Third Video Showing A Different Sequence?

Simply put NO! A rumor has been spread around social media and forums with the claim that “I saw” or “people are saying” that there was a third video which showed Adam Ward getting shot first, proving that there were multiple takes and it was staged. The trouble is not one person can produce this video. In the age of the internet this is impossible. Somebody somewhere would have it on their computer if it really existed. So I’m going to make an offer. The first person to show me said video gets $100 straight to their Paypal. I’m waiting …

Was A BBC News Crew Scared Off By Police?

Unfortunately it is not out of the ordinary for US police officers to be heavy handed over the filming of crime scenes, or even filming in general. Some of the same hoax truthers will have campaigned online about this issue many times (I’ve experienced anti-film police first hand myself in the UK). So that in and of itself is not particularly odd. Small fry cops, a sensitive crime scene, a stressful situation – some might even be sympathetic towards the police.

Of course it’s also not beyond the realm to imagine a scenario where it was the trigger happy cops who opened fire on black man Flanagan, and in an attempt not to further stoke racial tensions they kept reporters out and called it a suicide.

Obviously I have no evidence for this theory and I’m not sure whether the coroner would set the situation straight. But whatever went on, there’s not really anything to suggest there was a wider conspiracy at play, especially when considering everything else covered in this article.

Are The Father and Boyfriend Crisis Actors?

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This is when hoax truthers really begin to show themselves as horrible human beings. They will pick on anything they perceive as abnormal behaviour from the victim’s family and friends and use it to claim they are “terrible actors” and are just in on the conspiracy. “Why are they not crying” at this precise moment? “How can they smile?” or “why did the father stammer?” It really is a demented little game of nitpicking, with no logical basis.

If you have ever lost a loved one you will know that there are intermittent periods of extreme emotion. It’s not physically possible to literally be balling your eyes out 24/7. Likewise sometimes people get very numb and it doesn’t hit them for days. Humans are complex.

To accurately assess Parker’s father and boyfriend’s emotional response (which is really none of our business) we’d have to be with them the whole time. And any sane person who has seen their appearances will recognize that they do show sadness and emotion for their loss, they also show happiness when recalling happy memories as many people in mourning will do – it’s a coping mechanism. But all of this just isn’t good enough for the truthers, who are all apparently experts in body language. Perhaps what they’re really looking for is what they see in Hollywood movies. Well as much as they want this to be a movie, it’s not, it’s real life.

To demonstrate how disingenuous this concept is, I have made another image focussing on the points where Chris Hurst does show sadness.

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This concept of “acting” is also problematic. Everybody who is tasked with being in front of a camera is acting to some degree, whether just out of stage fright, or because they’re aware of the questions that will be asked. There will always be prepping and mental rehearsing, and maybe this comes through in the footage, but that doesn’t for one minute mean they are conspirators in a hoax. Furthermore let’s not forget that Hurst also works at the same news station, so he is going to be a bit more composed and professional that others might be in the same situation.

Does Hurst come across as a bit of a narcissist with all of his media appearances? Perhaps, but narcissism isn’t a crime. And if this was some complex Government conspiracy, by now his handlers would have probably told him to quiet down a bit. In that sense his love of the cameras may be more of a sign that he isn’t a conspirator.

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One reason father Andy Parker might appear to be so comfortable in front of the camera, is that he actually was a small time actor for about 6 years in the late 70s early 80s. Now this may come as a massive shock to the hoax truthers, but former actor’s children can be shot dead just like any other people’s children.

If this was a staged event, why would they use somebody with a clear acting history that can be found with a Google search? So the truthers can discover the not so secret secret and lose their shit?

It’s not like he’s trying to hide the fact. It’s on his public profiles.

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The “crisis actor” concept (actors paid to stage events) is as ridiculous now as it ever was. Not one of these actors has ever been uncovered! Sure there are a lot of mentally dernaged Youtube videos of truthers taking images of different people and claiming they are the same person acting in multiple events (which would be an absolutely stupid thing for the conspirators to do), but actual tangible evidence simply does not back this idea up. So Andy Parker being and actor when he was younger is simply evidence that he was an actor when he was younger. So what?

A lot has also been made about the pair calling for gun control, as if family members of shooting victims have never called for gun control before. A large portion of the country call for gun control after every high profile shooting. It’s a popular opinion right now. If it’s something they feel passionate about, why wouldn’t they push it on TV?

Was Chris Hurst Really Alison Parker’s Boyfriend?

One of the sillier theories out there claims that Chris Hurst was never really Alison Parker’s boyfriend and that he was simply playing the role as part of the conspiracy. The so called evidence for this is a lack of social media images of the two together, while there seems to be many images of Parker and her ex-boyfriend on one of his accounts. Other random claims are that Hurst is a homosexual “gay boy,” is too ugly to have ever been dating Parker, and must be an actor because he still uses a physical photo album in 2015.

These ideas have mostly been pushed by an obnoxious Youtuber called Peekay22.

Sadly for some hoax truthers that’s all the “evidence” they need – a bizarre idea that quantity of public photos has any baring on somebody’s personal relationship, blatant homophobia, and an irrational suspicion of photos that have been developed the traditional way. This is the mentality we’re dealing with!

Back in the real world it’s perfectly normal for relationships to end and new ones to start. It’s also perfectly normal for some couples to be very open about their love and others not to be. It’s also perfectly normal to develop or print photos as a keepsake. My sister does it. Is she a crisis actor?

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… Hang I thought there was a lack of photos of them together? For whatever reason the photo album doesn’t count, and neither do these:

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If Hurst and Parker were never together don’t you think at least one person they know would have piped up by now? And come to think of it, if this was staged why the hell would she need somebody to play her boyfriend? Some of these illogical theories are getting laughably absurd.

The nail in the coffin is that Parker’s ex-boyfriend himself has spoken out in anger at Peekay22’s ridiculous theory. Here is a snippet of their conversation:

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Has The Truth Movement Jumped The Shark? YES!

The so called “truthers” haven’t helped themselves in recent years. In a society where most people think they’re crazy anyway, a large portion of them have collectively decided that every single terrorist attack, mass shooting, and high profile instance of politically or ideologically driven violence … isn’t real.

No deaths, the victims simply acting out their injuries as “crisis actors” (a made up profession), and the alleged culprits are being set-up to push different government/new world order/illuminati agendas. From Sandy Hook, to the Boston Bombings, to this week’s shocking footage – according to them none of it really happened.

They’ve moved away from more considered and detailed research in to black operations and traditional false flag attacks, to running around like headless chickens calling anything and everything reported by the mainstream media fake. In the process any counter-culture “truth movement” that did exist over the past decade has fallen so far off the deep end that even self professed conspiracy theorists like me want nothing to do with their insanity.

JUST STOP IT !!

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Postby Daglord » Fri Sep 04, 2015 8:48 pm






Published on Sep 3, 2015
You know we are inundated with the HOAX MEME now as conspiracy theorists....We need to get out from under this fat whale of a concept because if we do not we are going to lose site of the real enemies at the gates. If you really believe that The Virginia shooting was a hoax YOU ARE LOST .....Pushing these memes for click bait and subscribers is DISGUSTING and you should be fucking ashamed.

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Vutulaki-san

Postby Vutulaki-san » Sat Sep 05, 2015 11:40 pm

"Quote: To play devil’s advocate, why would they make all of these so called continuity errors if it was staged?"

Wow what a fucking blatant, adolescent yet effective use of a false dichotomy, continuity errors only occur in non-staged events?

Sorry I know fuck all about this shooting. but that little pearl of wisdom is BS. Couldn't the change in the appearance of his clothing be attributed to the light he was in? A relatively dark check shirt might very well appear solid navy blue like it does in the image above the above quote.

What's Emily's take on this, Im stoned AF and need a laugh, please fill me in.

Vutulaki-san

Postby Vutulaki-san » Sun Sep 06, 2015 12:21 am

Just had a moment of stoner clarity, apologies if that was your quote daglord :oops:

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Postby Luigi » Tue Sep 08, 2015 1:23 pm

Quality debunking Dag. Its clear that telling society that all Black people and gay people are victims is in no way healthy for society. Its sad that some are trying so hard to deny this.
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