The Sandy Hook Investigations

Daglord · Postby **Daglord** » Tue Nov 10, 2015 3:30 pm

well... whaddya know...

https://www.gofundme.com/qr9jumpc

Wolfgang's Legal Bills
Created November 10, 2015 by Tony Mead (SHH admin)

Wolfgang Halbig has exhausted his funds and needs your help to defend himself against persecution.
Please help us to get back in the courtroom to find the truth !!
Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever does

- Margaret Mead

someone SERIOUSLY needs to ask him where all the money went... :lol:

wow the exploitation never stops... these assholes Wolfgang Halbig and Tony Mead have been asking for huge sums of money to do shoddy "investigative research" into the Sandy Hook event. recently halbig lost a court case because he filed phony defamation lawsuits against people who exposed his scams. now he has to pay big bucks to the people he sued, so to recoup the losses, these con-artists are claiming they've gone thru ALL the donations they ever received (tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of dollars) and need EVEN MORE to pay the whopping legal bills! LOL these people have no shame...

Canuckster · Postby **Canuckster** » Tue Nov 10, 2015 5:24 pm

Your video proof is no more a testimonial than any other video proof. This is the conundrum I've stated from the very beginning. Nothing is proveable. And even when evidence presents itself, either testimony or otherwise, there is always ways to shoot holes in it. You can't verify your stand anymore than anyone else. Your opinion is a theory and nothing more.

Daglord · Postby **Daglord** » Tue Nov 10, 2015 5:50 pm

still not following... if someone claims (repeatedly) that a sign was there on the morning of Dec. 14th & numerous, independent news video & still photos prove otherwise, that doesn't constitute as proof? curious as to what would then? same goes for the porta potties & evac.

what proof is there of fetzer's claims? you google fetzer yet?

we all know that the MSM is worthless. are we gonna sit around & let the alternative media become compromised by the likes of jim fetzer, professor doom(shit) & alex jones as well? that is exactly what is happening with your indifference.

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke

which vids did you watch specifically, tell me what you thought?

Daglord · Postby **Daglord** » Tue Nov 10, 2015 6:35 pm

here is another good one from fetzer's book:

here fetzer (& co) claim that all those SH photos were taken on a different days ("maybe a few years earlier").

they prove this by showing that both vehicles, notably the blue VW, are facing the school.

then claim that in this pic, the same VW is parked facing away from the school. DIFFERENT DAY! PROOF OF STAGING! PROOF OF HOAX!

but...

just my opinion?

Canuckster · Postby **Canuckster** » Tue Nov 10, 2015 7:23 pm

I dont think you're following my line of thinking, you say you're debunking the hoax crowd with pics and video, I'm saying that's just your opinion, nothing you say will change the fact, unless you took the pics yourself and show yourself standing over the dead children's corpses, your points are all just counter arguments not proof and therefore your opinion. Period

Daglord · Postby **Daglord** » Tue Nov 10, 2015 8:10 pm

nope. not @ all. again, which vids did you watch?

are you saying that above is not proof of obvious deception by fetzer? that the pictures proving the blue VW he claimed was rearranged, is in fact not the same car & that both were present that day is my opinion? or all the video footage from that day that clearly show no check in sign present when they say it was is opinion?

fair enough, I guess everything could technically be considered an opinion.

I'm curious, how do you conduct your research & form an opinion on something?

Canuckster · Postby **Canuckster** » Wed Nov 11, 2015 12:23 am

i think we all agree that there are shills and disinformation out there and that yes you can make claims and counterpoints to things people bring up, are there people out there crying hoax to discredit the legitimate efforts of the truth movement?

absofucking lutely

are we going to ever know the minutiae details of why and how?

not a fucking chance,

your opinions on the matter are clear and logical and follow the narrative you present, but

you still don't know the facts on the matter or the depth to which the corruption goes, no one does. you have an inkling based on logical evidence. don't take it the wrong way. it is what it is. I'm not trying to crap all over you or anything.

Daglord · Postby **Daglord** » Wed Nov 11, 2015 12:38 pm

I hear ya. I'm no trying to change your mind, just explaining why I feel so strongly. I still don't understand how people can continue to buy into the likes of fetzer & halbig. looking for some insight here.

for conversation sake, which vids did you watch? thoughts?

let me say this, if we continue to let people like jim fetzer & wolfgang halbig shit all over the truth community, it wont be around much longer as we know it. these guys are bordering on stochastic terrorism @ this point.

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YES! fetzer responded... & then gets caught in even more lies.

sorry man, this is not an opinion unless you can explain to me how. this is full-blown disinformation. what do you think is the reason for all this obvious deception?

Published on Nov 11, 2015
2015.11.11 (AE) - Another complete EMBARRASSMENT, and DEVASTATING LOSS, for "Team Fetzer Fail Army"…

Daglord · Postby **Daglord** » Wed Nov 11, 2015 2:35 pm

However the lack of EMTs etc is still strange to me

Unit: NEWTA2 Paramedic Robert Velleteri w/Marty Folan and John Burke ALS -female juvi ALS
Unit: NEWTA3 - Paramedic Daniel Bradley w/Kenneth Lerman and Laurie Veillete
BLS to adult female (Hammond) and boy.
Inside the school in direct contact with the deceased were Two EMTs: Sgt William Cario and TFC Patrick Dragon; One Registered Nurse, William Blumenthal; and Paramedics: Director of Danbury EMT, Paramedic Matthew Cassevechia, and two tactical Paramedics, John Reed and Bernie Meehan.

Daglord · Postby **Daglord** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 12:05 am

Interview with Patrick R. Dragon: CFS 1200704559\Book 6\00073537.pdf:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3-vhp ... sp=sharing
Emergency Medical Technician license:
https://www.elicense.ct.gov/Lookup/Prin ... ct=1052718

"we then proceeded to walk down the north hallway and as we were doing so someone shouted 'second gunman'."

Interview with William A. Blumenthal:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3-vhp ... sp=sharing
Registered Nurse license:
https://www.elicense.ct.gov/Lookup/Prin ... ct=1026513

"we had received a description that the shooter was wearing all black with a mask".

"this was my first recollection of seeing the shooter lying on the floor on his right side. he matched the description previously provided, with the exception of wearing a mask"

Published on Dec 12, 2014
2014.12.12 (AE) - Foreign media provides us with new details about Sandy Hook… the possible 'Second Shooter' arrested in the woods, the man described as wearing 'Camo Pants', well, he was also supposedly wearing a 'Ski Mask' and a 'Camouflage Vest'.

Remember, this is the proper seasonal attire for making gingerbread houses at Sandy Hook, cutting wood without a chainsaw, or simply lurking around in the Newtown forest...

CBS News reports that a potential second suspect was in custody and that SWAT was investigating the home of the suspect. It was not known if that alleged second suspect fired any of the shots in the massacre.

http://connecticut.cbslocal.com/2012/12/14/school-shooting-leaves-multiple-injured/

"Was there a federal arrest regarding the murders at Sandy Hook?"
"do they have anything to do with the 911 tapes withheld?"
"uh.. so I'm only privy to the state prosecution you're asking about?"
"Which is all you would be aware of correct?"
"no, that is not correct"
"what...what is it then..."
(interrupts) "I just cannot speak on behalf of the federal authorities"
"ok, are you aware of any federal arrests related to the incident @ sandy hook"
(lawyer): "umm... I'm gonna object. can we get some definition of 'related to the events @ sandy hook'?... because, I think there may have been an arrest flowing from something that started there, but it gets a little complicated"
...
"it would be a criminal arrest specifically flowing from the murders @ sandy hook? in other words, someone else involved in the murders in sandy hook"
"can you re ask that again. clarification?"
"was there a federal arrest that stemmed from the specific actions @ sandy hook?"
"um... yeah...I'm just trying to think in terms of 'directly' or 'indirectly'"
"you know, ok, it's not worth it".

Sandy Hook DA cites 'potential suspects,' fears witness safety
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/342829

Connecticut State's Attorney Stephen Sedensky has argued that unsealing warrants in the Sandy Hook case might "seriously jeopardize" the investigation by disclosing information known only to other "potential suspects."

The statement by the CT prosecutor's office is the first indication from state authorities that Adam Lanza may have not acted alone. The statement was made in support of a motion to continue the seal on the results of five search warrants for 90 more days.

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