PedoGate

[Luigi]

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Pizzagate

I have better things to do than dwell on conspiracy theories, but this article sums up my opinion of the whole thing. Yes, ANY suspected child abuse must be investigated as soon as possible, but this whole thing is so ridiculous that it sounds exactly like a parody that the Onion would cook up or some elaborate, sociopathic test to determine the limits of what people will believe in to pad out their misguided convictions.

Theres a running joke on the internet that Encyclopedia Dramatica will give you a more rational assessment than Rationalwiki. It has a fairly obvious agenda, presenting the most ridiculous theories and cherry picks the weakest arguments. Personally I can't commit to believing Pizzagate until there is concrete proof, but I also feel obliged to defend the proponent researchers from the "fake news" smear campaign.

[Masato]

Hey all...

So I took a long break from this topic, and have been wondering whether or not it has disappeared like all the other pedo scandals eventually do.

Did anyone see the Megyn Kelly interview? I couldn't bear to watch, lol

In any case, I started peeking around again and see that the story is continuing to expand, lots of mofos working hard to make new links and do further research. I don't even know where to begin.

I will keep an eye on it and post anything significant I find. In the meantime here is an interesting video where some investigators have claimed to have found the 'Kill Room' posted by the Comet Ping Pong crew on Instagram. Apparently its in a weird building in an alleyway that was knows as a 'Pegasus Museum', owned by Alefantis, but that name has since been scrubbed.



I still think this story hit a nerve, it has likely been infiltrated with a ton of crap to muddy the waters, but the way the MSM reacted so insanely about it where there were CLEARLY some fucked up shit going and plenty to investigate put up a lot of red flags... Like I've said before there have been enough serious large-scale pedo scandals in the past to warrant taking any such claims very seriously, imo. With all the weird shit that has created Pizzagate I think it really could be a great leak and deserving of further scrutiny

[penxv]

This series of articles is from a D.C. suburb in northern Virginia (inside the beltway). Median income is 120k... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falls_Church,_Virginia

http://fallschurchfacts.com/sex-city-of ... ibilities/
http://fallschurchfacts.com/sex-city-ar ... ing-risks/
http://fallschurchfacts.com/sex-city-ar ... nd-action/

[Masato]

^ thx penxv

Here is an un-dramatic presentation of most of the info on the subject to date that has created the case... its long but seems to cover most everything...

It is absurd that no investigation is being done. Dare anyone to watch the whole thing and tell me there is nothing abnormal going on here.

[Luigi]

Damn!!! Christ this is freaky. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if 10 years later this guy gets hit by a car or has a "heart attack." Btw "Achilles Castellum" means "Fort Achilles" if anyone is wondering. Its crazy how worried Alefantis was about the guy posting about that but was fine with everything else.

Here are my updated theories about Pizzagate: Podesta and his emailees used code to communicate clandestine information, but this cannot be guaranteed to be pedo shit and there is a good chance that its something else. Alefantis is a perv and has gay sex parties with his friends. He called a little girl a ho-tard but it may be some of his friends are pedos and not necessarily him. This is corroborated by that performer who said "I thought that was his manager, well we all have our preferences." and by Alefantis in a private setting saying everything being said about him is true except that he likes kids.

It would be crazy if one of the pedo friends ends up being caught via these private researchers.

May the gods protect ever vigilant O'Neal, his loved ones, and those like him.

[Masato]

That guy who claimed to have found the killroom (^^a few posts above) is getting a flood of attention saying that James Alefantis personally threatened to kill him and his family

I watched it... he has some screengrabs of messages/text conversations but no guarantee its actually Alefantis. Dude also claims that he had TWO phone conversations with Alefantis where he was threatened, but for some reason DIDN'T RECORD THEM.

Guy sounds full of shit, I wonder how fast this story is getting pumped full of disinfo to try to bury it.

It doesn't matter imo, there is at least 30 minutes of solid presentation/evidence that I have yet to find any reasonable explanation for that makes more sense than the pizzagate theory. It is all just so weird, these people should simply be investigated because of the nature of the suspected crimes. And NOT by Megyn Kelly FFS

I am building the courage to watch that interview, it will be painful. I hate MSM so much when it is clear they are covering for evil shit

[Luigi]

That guy who claimed to have found the killroom (^^a few posts above) is getting a flood of attention saying that James Alefantis personally threatened to kill him and his family

I watched it... he has some screengrabs of messages/text conversations but no guarantee its actually Alefantis. Dude also claims that he had TWO phone conversations with Alefantis where he was threatened, but for some reason DIDN'T RECORD THEM.

Guy sounds full of shit, I wonder how fast this story is getting pumped full of disinfo to try to bury it.

It doesn't matter imo, there is at least 30 minutes of solid presentation/evidence that I have yet to find any reasonable explanation for that makes more sense than the pizzagate theory. It is all just so weird, these people should simply be investigated because of the nature of the suspected crimes. And NOT by Megyn Kelly FFS

I am building the courage to watch that interview, it will be painful. I hate MSM so much when it is clear they are covering for evil shit

The guy made a video showing the facebook chat and how it links to the real Alefantis facebook page. It could be faked with a lot of effort and tech skills but to me this just seems like a kid who actually did contact Alefantis. He also put up a video showing that the phone number on his Alefantis contact is registered to Alefantis according to some caller ID program. Not sure how legit that is though.

[Masato]

^ good post

The photo in question where the bricks look the same I thought almost looked too good, I smelled a possible photoshop. The colors/lighting/values were almost identical this is odd as lighting changes drastically all the time

Don't know what to make of that guy, not sure I wanna invest much more time on him. Hard subject to go through but if anyone feels it is possible to be true, we are almost compelled to keep picking at it and discussing it so that it does not fade into obscurity as so many other important CTs have done...

It feels like we are on the brink of a real possible break in the Grand Deception... this topic is so disgusting, and the way the MSM reacted so suspicious, if ANY significant smoking gun were to come out, + the recent shift in power with Trumps election and the Wiki/DNC email dump we could finally be seeing all we've been working for finally come out.

Then again, I've been masochistically having the same hopes since 9/11, lol

I will try when I get some time to make a concise list here of all the things we KNOW so far. Too many threads on this issue can stretch for hundreds of pages, I liked that video above ^^ where he just lists the facts to date. I think we can make even more concise cliff-notes.

Then look at them all at once, and tell me you can let the issue go or not think its worth a serious investigation. Problem is... investigation by who?

Good god, I hope sometimes that Winnson is right about Trump

[Luigi]

I was reading some pizzagate site and they found a wikileaks email where a US intelligence agency confirms that "pizza" is a common code word. Not huge news, but it does put to rest the idea that Podesta was only talking about literal pizza, if anyone still believed that.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1541689

Also the guy from the video filed a police report for the threat:

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1543423

Edit:

Also somewhere in my searching of this stuff I found this article about this pedo who is a writer for the NYT and has had essentially no repercussions for his confirmed actions: https://medium.com/@BillMoranWrites/foo ... .tkvmccrrs

[Luigi]

I've been reading more of that Voat board and they have found some quite interesting information. To summarize, in 2008 there was a town meeting on whether or not Comet Pizza should be allowed to opperate and play music past midnight. There is an archived audio recording of the whole meeting. Its a pretty normal meeting about the pros and cons until a man named Frank Winstead implies that Comet's late night activities will turn the neighbourhood into a hotbed for nightlife and crime, and then quickly escalates this saying that "James [Alefantis] will bring rape and murder.." before he is drowned out by the angry crowd. Keep in mind this was 2008. Not long ago a Pizzagate researcher named Destin Blevins contacted Winstead asking him if he could comment on Pizzagate, saying it seems he knew something. Not long after Blevins mysteriously died. He was 34 and had a family.

In the audio recording after Winstead's bold statement, another man speaks who identifies himself as Michael Maccaby. He defends Alefantis, says they are friends and says he will "take down" anyone who opposes the decision to let Comet operate after midnight. It turns out Maccaby's son, Max Maccaby is an attorney who represented Alefantis and his powerful ex boyfriend David Brock in a blackmail case. He also happens to be a director of NPH, formerly known as Friends of the Orphans, a charity that assisted convicted child trafficker Laura Silsby in trafficking 33 children from Haiti. It also turns out that Silsby's attorney Jorge Puello Torres is a wanted child trafficker.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1523591

This is the thing about Pizzagate, there is always another inconvenient fact that you have to continually incorporate into the idea that its all just a coincidence. The many twigs are forming a stronger and stronger stick.