Residential school mass graves turned out to be a hoax

[Luigi]

The whole report of mass graves was actually just based on "anomalies" when using a ground penetrating radar. 2 years later they went to actually check for graves and there are zero.

https://nypost.com/2023/08/31/still-no- ... in-canada/

Countless churches and statues of our ancestors were vandalized because of this conspiracy theory pushed by Trudeau and the useful idiots. And of course the corporate world was there to make a buck with the obviously manufactured orange shirt movement/merch trend.

[Megaterio Llamas]

[Masato]

Good thread, I've been hoping to discuss with you guys as I am finding this topic confusing

At this point I think the govt is playing some 4D chess here lol

I had been following guys like Kevin Annett years ago, who tried to shed light on the horrors of (some) residential schools. He was silenced and labelled a conspiracy nut and the government and the courts blocked all his shit.

Then Trudeau comes out and it's suddenly in the limelight out of nowhere, govt goes full 'reconciliation mode', but now graves are turning up blank?

The whole thing smells like a big mis-direct to me somehow.

On one hand, I don't believe anything Trudeau govt says. On the other hand, I've spoken 1st hand to several first nations who confirm the stories of (some) residential schools. I've heard them told to me directly, they ring sincere to me.

My honest suspicion right now is this - please let me know how fucked it is lol:

I think the stories the first nations tell of residential school nightmares are true. I think Kevin Annett was telling the truth.
-Canadian govt and elites never wanted it to be known, as many elites and living families were involved.
-The noise to tell the truth became too loud, and they couldn't keep the issue silenced anymore.
-In order to keep protecting the truth, they led everyone to.a bunch of dead end streets, locations (landfills) etc they knew would come up empty.
-The searches will come up empty
-There are likely real mass graves, but folks digging in the wrong places
-Trudeau will use the negative searches to his favour to further his bullshit 'reconciliation' agendas
-The public/media will consider it a non-issues. settled, and the truth will be buried again.

tell me if any of that is impossible or faulty

[Luigi]

So first of all we have to establish that nobody is claiming residential schools didnt happen, that they didnt intentionally erase culture, and that they werent generally shitty. The historical perspective was simply that the most beneficial thing for the Skraling was to bring them into modern civilization and that was worth them losing their language and way of life. People didnt stop thinking this until the late 50s and early 60s.

The controversy specifically is whether or not there are mass graves. So far the only evidence is GPR anomalies that turned out to be nothing. I've worked with GPR and its not accurate to the level that its used as definitive evidence for anything, rather its used to find what might potentially be a point of interest leading to a stage 3 or greater excavation, where the real evidence comes in. The only reason a GPR reading would be presented as definitive was to fulfil a political agenda, and later a corporate one. Trudeau and the gang dont have to worry about their great grandpa being involved or anything as they can just virtue signal it away as "we are so much more compassionate now in #currentyear."

Or maybe I'm wrong, maybe Kevin Annett and some old native guys say they saw it first hand and the nasty White man was throwing wave after wave of freshly butchered kids into a giant pit in the ground. But if anything remotely like that is true then we shouldnt even have to use GPR to find such graves, we should have witnesses who can tell us exactly where they are. As it stands, its a theory far from the threshold of being anything more than that.

[Masato]

So first of all we have to establish that nobody is claiming residential schools didnt happen, that they didnt intentionally erase culture, and that they werent generally shitty. The historical perspective was simply that the most beneficial thing for the Skraling was to bring them into modern civilization and that was worth them losing their language and way of life. People didnt stop thinking this until the late 50s and early 60s.

The controversy specifically is whether or not there are mass graves. So far the only evidence is GPR anomalies that turned out to be nothing. I've worked with GPR and its not accurate to the level that its used as definitive evidence for anything, rather its used to find what might potentially be a point of interest leading to a stage 3 or greater excavation, where the real evidence comes in. The only reason a GPR reading would be presented as definitive was to fulfil a political agenda, and later a corporate one. Trudeau and the gang dont have to worry about their great grandpa being involved or anything as they can just virtue signal it away as "we are so much more compassionate now in #currentyear."

Or maybe I'm wrong, maybe Kevin Annett and some old native guys say they saw it first hand and the nasty White man was throwing wave after wave of freshly butchered kids into a giant pit in the ground. But if anything remotely like that is true then we shouldnt even have to use GPR to find such graves, we should have witnesses who can tell us exactly where they are. As it stands, its a theory far from the threshold of being anything more than that.

Thanks. However there is still the many many testimonies to deal with. Kevin Annett compiled hundreds. I have personally heard two.
There are generations of first nations that all know and have been told the history by their parents and grandparents. They testify to all kinds of things.
Are they all lying?

Some schools may have been better than others of course. I have heard mostly about Port Alberni

The surviving first nations would likely not have known where any bodies were dumped/buried. My guess is that they were likely trafficked off the reserve and killed elsewhere.

Who to believe?
Not the media
Not Trudeau's gang
imo

I just think its weird after so many years of burying the story, all of a sudden now it comes out under Trudeau's psychotic agendas, and oops nothing to be found I guess all those natives were just making it all up.
Tough pill to swallow imo.
Any first nations that believes via one way or another that serious crimes and murders happened will be devastated to have the issue put to bed because a few of these supposed grave sites came up empty

[Masato]

To understand clearer I think it’s imperative to consider UNDRIP as part of what’s going on.

There is a massive land ownership transfer proposed by the UN that appears like a lot of it is poised to be done via sone fake reconciliation shit. Trudeau is clearly tasked with paving the way for that.
I will post more but for sure this is part of the equation.

Also I disagree that it would just be dead great grandfathers that would carry the shame of the whole truth got out. It would open a huge can of worms of who was complicit leading to lots of active groups and families today.

The way it’s going, they got to both address the issue (or appear to have addressed it), and buried it at the same time. AIso framing it conveniently for UN agendas.

Also weird how the media is using the word ‘hoax’. Bold accusation imo
Conflicting details/testimony of history perhaps, but a hoax?


Anyways just my drunken rants about it. I don’t know what’s what

[Luigi]

To investigate the veracity of the testimonies you would probably need to investigate each of them individually, keeping in mind how they could be influenced by the flow of time or being not first hand accounts. Also Im sure they will keep searching so maybe in the future something will turn up.

The thing is its easy to think most people are like you and me and would be really interested how different families have been running Canadian politics for generations(Gregory Allen Elliot has done some good research on this apparently), but I suspect in reality most people wouldnt care. Maybe I'm too cynical, but I think the only time the masses truly get outraged about anything is when it either 1. affects them directly, or 2. gets amplified 100fold by a co-ordinated media effort.

The media actually didnt use the word hoax, thats my wording. Also it seems that only the national post, who are less woke than most Canadian media are reporting on this. All the others covering it seem to be international.