Putin's Annual Address at the Valdai Conference 2023 Edition

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Putin's Annual Address at the Valdai Conference 2023 Edition

Postby Megaterio Llamas » Sun Oct 08, 2023 5:12 am

I haven't watched it yet but I'm hearing it's another powerhouse.


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Postby Megaterio Llamas » Sun Oct 08, 2023 5:13 am

This is the one from last fall - 2022.




My personal favorite - 2021.

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Postby Edge Guerrero » Tue Oct 10, 2023 9:57 pm

- Putin lost his touch of reality
- I rent this space for advertising

Don't be selfish, preserve this world for the next generations.

I'll never long for what might have been
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I won't look back I'll fight to remain

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Postby Masato » Fri Oct 13, 2023 8:38 pm

Megaterio Llamas wrote:I haven't watched it yet but I'm hearing it's another powerhouse.





Just finished his speech. On to the Q&A

He is basically calling for a return to Nationalism. He says the west is overstepping this simple principle for peace, trying to dictate what other countries do, not as equal respected global partners, but as obedient slave nations, expected to take orders from outside a nation's people.

He says all countries and cultures should have clear borders, and not exploit lands outside them for their own gain. Respect nations, keep to your own.

he says the world is too diverse for just 1 system. He says the idea to impose 1 way or 1 culture as some global order is crazy because there are too many differences in the world. Nationalism is best, along with respectful trade between them.
he says if everyone did this in the world we would have far less problems.

He also repeated that he did not start the war w/ Ukraine. He said the west/NATO started shit in 2014. Putin said it's NOT about territory, but about SELF RESPECT as a nation, not willing to be bullied or trampled or fucked with. He simply drew a line as to how far he was gonna let NATO encroach, and he encourages other nations to do the same, have self-respect and dignity to stand up when someone gets too close.
He says the west has no business scolding Putin for stepping over borders, as they have done so many countless times all over the world, whereas Putin has only challenged direct conflicts on his doorstep.

He says the 'colonial' mindset of the current Globalists is over/must end, and the world must look to a 'new world' NOT one of centralized hegemony, but a world of true respected diversity, where no country is anyone else's bitch, and people start to take care of themselves and respect their neighbour.
Good fences make good neighbors, etc

Pretty sensible, in theory. A lot of folks nodding their heads in the audience. I tend to agree this is a much more desirable model than a 1-world Order type hell we are being cattled into.

listening to the Q&A next

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Postby Masato » Sat Oct 14, 2023 2:37 am

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I see big differences. At least on the surface.

Love him or hate him, Putin is right when you compare USA vs Russia in how many countries/borders they have invaded, how many coups and regime changes etc. It's hard to argue there's no comparison.

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Postby Masato » Sat Oct 14, 2023 2:25 pm

The Q&A was too boring. I quite halfway through, nothing notable until then at least.

Mostly just Putin rambling on bragging about statistics and praising Russia. Probably mostly bullshit

Podium speech was good.

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Postby Masato » Sat Oct 14, 2023 2:41 pm

Oh yeah, the overall tone re; war in Ukraine

Putin plays it very cool. Either he is genuinely not worried about it and can maintain his lines indefinitely without a problem, or he is a very good actor with a strong poker face

What a freaky individual.

Did you guys ever see the drone footage that guy captured of Putin's super-palace, and broadcast it live for all the Russians to see?
LOL that guy is in jail now
that was a good story

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Postby Megaterio Llamas » Sat Oct 14, 2023 3:28 pm

Masato wrote:Oh yeah, the overall tone re; war in Ukraine

Putin plays it very cool. Either he is genuinely not worried about it and can maintain his lines indefinitely without a problem, or he is a very good actor with a strong poker face

What a freaky individual.

Did you guys ever see the drone footage that guy captured of Putin's super-palace, and broadcast it live for all the Russians to see?
LOL that guy is in jail now
that was a good story


You don't talk about Putin's palace Mas, that's rule #1. :)

I still haven't had a chance to listen to the speech yet, I'll get around to it over the weekend. The 2021 speech will probably always be the best. I can say though, Putin is the only leader I have ever seen in my lifetime who can spend three hours debating international relations theory and world order. The boomer leadership class in the West is so lightweight in comparison, it's embarrassing. And really dangerous imo.
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Postby Masato » Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:48 pm

Yes he looks comfortable out there, which is only possible if he feels he knows his shit.

Politicians that go up with notes, teleprompters and talking points never dare engage on that level.


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